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rb25jun · 02-06-2008, 08:41 PM

how do people run an oil relocation kit and an oil cooler???

i know theres a sandwich plate for the relocation and another for a cooler?

is there a plate with four outlets? instead of two..?

wondering because im planning on doing both.

and are the oil filter sizes the same on s13 sr20det's and ka24de's?

khilgers · 02-06-2008, 09:07 PM

Tomei block adapter

Summit oil filter relocation, Earl's thermostat, 16x6 Setrab oil cooler

Just need to order fittings and hose and I'm ready to go.

916S14 · 02-06-2008, 09:18 PM

no the oil filters are not the same. There is a giant thread on sr20 faq. For sr engines you use a SER sentra oil filter.

96Turbo · 02-06-2008, 09:20 PM

where does that solid block with the 2 in/ 2 out go??

khilgers · 02-06-2008, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96Turbo

where does that solid block with the 2 in/ 2 out go??

that the oil thermostat? It goes from the filter through the thermostat, works just like a coolant thermostat, once the oil heats up enough the thermstat opens.

rb25jun · 02-07-2008, 12:14 PM

so tomei block to thermastat to cooler.. and then just run a relocation kit for the filter???

Sir · 02-07-2008, 12:17 PM

nope, unless you only want your oil filtered once its up to operating temp LOLz
Do it this way.
Tomei to relocation to thermostat to cooler back to thermostat back to Tomei block
In additon to that, make sure you got the in/out right on the block. relocation, and thermostat. otherwise you might run it dry.

rb25jun · 02-07-2008, 02:01 PM

like this...

not to scale.

Sir · 02-07-2008, 03:07 PM

aaaaaaaaalmost

Filter relocation is just one piece. The Tomei block goes instead of the thread on oil filter part.

If you look in the pics above (kilgers)
Tomei block, to filter, to thermo to cooler, to thermo, to tomei
running -8or-10 lines.

Edit.
here it is, from Tomei website
Oil block installed

Oil filter relocation kit with cooler (no thermo, just like my setup)

hope that clears it up

timlush · 02-07-2008, 04:47 PM

Why does it need to pass back through the thermo after going through the cooler? Why can't it go from cooler -> engine?

timlush · 02-07-2008, 04:48 PM

Does Tomei make a block for the RB25?

edit: Khilgers, get rid of that Fram filter STAT!

khilgers · 02-07-2008, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timlush

Does Tomei make a block for the RB25?

edit: Khilgers, get rid of that Fram filter STAT!

it was just 1 had laying around the house. I won't be using it once I install my setup.

Sir · 02-08-2008, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timlush

Why does it need to pass back through the thermo after going through the cooler? Why can't it go from cooler -> engine?

because there is only 1 return fitting.

karmakaze · 02-09-2008, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khilgers

it was just 1 had laying around the house. I won't be using it once I install my setup.

i bought this relocation kit:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/REMOT...QQcmdZViewItem

and i used the oil cooler from a 2nd gen RX7. (it has a built in thermostat as well)

i have a set of 1/2" braided lines and fittings that i have for sale that will work with that kit and an rx7 cooler if your interested.

SWAT Team S14 · 02-09-2008, 08:13 AM

do they make a block adapter with a thermo already in it? i know greddy makes one, but it's only a sandwich adapter, which doesn't relocate the filter. here's the greddy one at 240sxmotoring: http://240sxmotoring.com/groilcoadw.html. It would just save a lot of money not to have to buy an inline thermo plus all the extra fittings & lines needed to run in & out of it.

rican_nick · 02-09-2008, 08:22 AM

I have not seen a block off with thermo. However I am pretty sure greddy also makes the filter relocation adapter with built in thermo. Dousan (IIRC) had one for sale on here a while back.

edit: Dousan_PG fs thread
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...ghlight=greddy

916S14 · 03-27-2008, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khilgers

Tomei block adapter

Summit oil filter relocation, Earl's thermostat, 16x6 Setrab oil cooler

Just need to order fittings and hose and I'm ready to go.

did your fittings for the oil relocation bracket the one from summit not fit in all the way? cause i got the same one with earls 1/2'' fitting and they're too long.

codyace · 03-27-2008, 06:12 PM

Rememebr NPT is tapered thread, so you souldn't /wouldn't want to bottom out the threads.

916S14 · 03-27-2008, 06:23 PM

so what you're saying is thats normal? Because thats the amount mine stick out and i cant tighten it more and i dont want to force it.

Size · 03-27-2008, 07:03 PM

I highly recommend either a built in thermostat to the oil cooler itself or an external one. you can still run without a thermostat but thats like taking the chance when you bounce your sr off the red line with no RAS!!

Once oil reaches a good opp temp the thermostat opens up and allows oil to circulate through the cooler. When the oil is not warm enough it simply bypasses the cooler and shoots back to the block and circulates as a normal set up would until it warms up to pass through the entire oil cooling system.

Thermostats are good in that there is no forcing the cold thick oil through very small bars on the cooler.

I have an oil cooler with a built in thermostat here is my set up
hope these pics help

Its a good idea if you do this set up to have the feed and return lines a different colors or marked ( makes it quicker to source potential problems, and with a spagetti of hoses to know wich line does what.
on my set up the grey is the out to filter from engine, short blue from filter to cooler thermostat, long blue back to engine from cooler.

hope that helps

McRussellPants · 03-27-2008, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir

nope, unless you only want your oil filtered once its up to operating temp LOLz

Actually it will be like that regardless. since the Oil Pressure on the SR is high enough to bypass the filter element until its warmed up and at idle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Size

you can still run without a thermostat but thats like taking the chance when you bounce your sr off the red line with no RAS!!

Uhhh...

No Thermostat is fine on a Track car.

Just as no RAS is fine if not better.

Size · 03-27-2008, 08:04 PM

like i said , its still fine without but with is better

the best builds are built with preventative and lasting in mind. !

02-06-2008, 08:41 PM	#1
rb25jun Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Eagle Rock Age: 38 Posts: 623 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	oil relocation w/ oil cooler how do people run an oil relocation kit and an oil cooler??? i know theres a sandwich plate for the relocation and another for a cooler? is there a plate with four outlets? instead of two..? wondering because im planning on doing both. and are the oil filter sizes the same on s13 sr20det's and ka24de's?

02-09-2008, 08:22 AM	#16
rican_nick Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Augusta, GA Age: 42 Posts: 1,204 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have not seen a block off with thermo. However I am pretty sure greddy also makes the filter relocation adapter with built in thermo. Dousan (IIRC) had one for sale on here a while back. edit: Dousan_PG fs thread http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...ghlight=greddy __________________ Nick O. 97 240sx My Seller's Review Thread

03-27-2008, 06:12 PM	#18
codyace Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poconos, PA Age: 40 Posts: 8,030 Trader Rating: (58) Feedback Score: 58 reviews	Rememebr NPT is tapered thread, so you souldn't /wouldn't want to bottom out the threads. __________________ *Want Air Conditioning in your SR20 Swapped car? Check out www.sr20acbrackets.com for more information! Quest Alternator Conversions for SR20!* Check my Group Buy! Tired of lousy internal gates? Go external wastegate with one of my manifolds, Check out my group buy

03-27-2008, 07:03 PM	#20
Size Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 37 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oil cooler set up I highly recommend either a built in thermostat to the oil cooler itself or an external one. you can still run without a thermostat but thats like taking the chance when you bounce your sr off the red line with no RAS!! Once oil reaches a good opp temp the thermostat opens up and allows oil to circulate through the cooler. When the oil is not warm enough it simply bypasses the cooler and shoots back to the block and circulates as a normal set up would until it warms up to pass through the entire oil cooling system. Thermostats are good in that there is no forcing the cold thick oil through very small bars on the cooler. I have an oil cooler with a built in thermostat here is my set up hope these pics help Its a good idea if you do this set up to have the feed and return lines a different colors or marked ( makes it quicker to source potential problems, and with a spagetti of hoses to know wich line does what. on my set up the grey is the out to filter from engine, short blue from filter to cooler thermostat, long blue back to engine from cooler. hope that helps

02-06-2008, 09:07 PM	#2
khilgers Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Twin Cities Age: 44 Posts: 893 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: khilgers Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Tomei block adapter Summit oil filter relocation, Earl's thermostat, 16x6 Setrab oil cooler Just need to order fittings and hose and I'm ready to go.

02-06-2008, 09:18 PM	#3
916S14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 416 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	no the oil filters are not the same. There is a giant thread on sr20 faq. For sr engines you use a SER sentra oil filter.

02-06-2008, 09:20 PM	#4
96Turbo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: AZ Age: 36 Posts: 1,315 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	where does that solid block with the 2 in/ 2 out go??

02-07-2008, 12:14 PM	#6
rb25jun Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Eagle Rock Age: 38 Posts: 623 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	so tomei block to thermastat to cooler.. and then just run a relocation kit for the filter???

02-07-2008, 12:17 PM	#7
Sir Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: IL Posts: 913 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	nope, unless you only want your oil filtered once its up to operating temp LOLz Do it this way. Tomei to relocation to thermostat to cooler back to thermostat back to Tomei block In additon to that, make sure you got the in/out right on the block. relocation, and thermostat. otherwise you might run it dry.

02-07-2008, 02:01 PM	#8
rb25jun Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Eagle Rock Age: 38 Posts: 623 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	like this... not to scale.

02-07-2008, 03:07 PM	#9
Sir Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: IL Posts: 913 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	aaaaaaaaalmost Filter relocation is just one piece. The Tomei block goes instead of the thread on oil filter part. If you look in the pics above (kilgers) Tomei block, to filter, to thermo to cooler, to thermo, to tomei running -8or-10 lines. Edit. here it is, from Tomei website Oil block installed Oil filter relocation kit with cooler (no thermo, just like my setup) hope that clears it up

02-07-2008, 04:47 PM	#10
timlush Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Age: 40 Posts: 1,169 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Why does it need to pass back through the thermo after going through the cooler? Why can't it go from cooler -> engine?

02-07-2008, 04:48 PM	#11
timlush Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Age: 40 Posts: 1,169 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Does Tomei make a block for the RB25? edit: Khilgers, get rid of that Fram filter STAT!

02-09-2008, 08:13 AM	#15
SWAT Team S14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dirtee Jerzee Posts: 431 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	do they make a block adapter with a thermo already in it? i know greddy makes one, but it's only a sandwich adapter, which doesn't relocate the filter. here's the greddy one at 240sxmotoring: http://240sxmotoring.com/groilcoadw.html. It would just save a lot of money not to have to buy an inline thermo plus all the extra fittings & lines needed to run in & out of it.

03-27-2008, 06:23 PM	#19
916S14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 416 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so what you're saying is thats normal? Because thats the amount mine stick out and i cant tighten it more and i dont want to force it.

03-27-2008, 08:04 PM	#22
Size Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 37 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	like i said , its still fine without but with is better the best builds are built with preventative and lasting in mind. !