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Old 07-17-2008, 12:35 PM   #31
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Yes, when I find out what he did, I will then decide.

Just running from the cops, does not make him a "loser" to me, millions have done worse, I am emotionally unaffected by his endangerment of others in that sense, so, like I said, I am reserving my judgement.
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rampage didnt get whooped by forrest... sadly enough most people think rampage won the fight... but anyways

if anyone was actually into ufc... they would know that there was an interview a few hours before the chase and rampage wasnt "himself"... who knows why it happen...

i originally though it was possibly just a ploy like vince mcman use to do, but i hope ufc isnt stooping so low
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Rampage comes of like a total dick, it really doesn't surprise me that this happend.
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It gets deeper:
Rampage Picked Up For Mental Evaluation

Looks to me like he is about to get his Mike Tyson on without the same amount of fame and fortune, which simply means he won't fall as far.
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Aw, man this sucks. I don't want to see him go the Tyson route.

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rampage didnt get whooped by forrest... sadly enough most people think rampage won the fight... but anyways

if anyone was actually into ufc... they would know that there was an interview a few hours before the chase and rampage wasnt "himself"... who knows why it happen...

i originally though it was possibly just a ploy like vince mcman use to do, but i hope ufc isnt stooping so low
Yea, you got us. No one here is into MMA. The longest thread in OT ISN'T a MMA thread...Know what you are talking about before you start poppin off.
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Just running from the cops, does not make him a "loser" to me, millions have done worse, I am emotionally unaffected by his endangerment of others in that sense
So if I'm coming home from work and somebody flies through a stoplight and kills me, you're "emotionally unaffected" by that?

Replace me with yourself or someone you love.
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Yea, you got us. No one here is into MMA. The longest thread in OT ISN'T a MMA thread...Know what you are talking about before you start poppin off.
What's "MMA"? Can you teach me some "MMA"?
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Yes, when I find out what he did, I will then decide.

Just running from the cops, does not make him a "loser" to me, millions have done worse, I am emotionally unaffected by his endangerment of others in that sense, so, like I said, I am reserving my judgement.
Haha, dude are you kidding? If you are "emotionally unaffected" then let me ask you this, what if one of your family members was walking on that sidewalk Jackson decided to drive on while running from the cops.

I understand your reservation of judgement till trial but come on.
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Not a good week for Rampage...

Quinton Jackson was picked up by police yesterday in California after friends of his "waved down" police at around 4:30PM when they became "worried" about Jackson's behavior. Jackson was apparently taken to the hospital for a mental evaluation.

From TMZ:

Quinton "Rampage" Jackson has been picked up by police again.

Sources say around 4:30 PM yesterday, friends who were hanging out with Rampage, waved down an Irvine police car after they were worried about his behavior. This, of course, following the insane chase the day before in which the UFC fighter hit several cars in his monster truck and was arrested at gunpoint.

We're told Irvine cops saw Rampage, deemed him a danger to himself and others, and took him to a hospital for observation. Rampage was very coopertive with police.

Cops won't officially confirm if it's a psychiatric hold.
Jackson was arrested earlier this week for a felony hit-and-run and subsequent police chase (felony evading). He was able to post the $25,000 bail.

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g6 and coupedrifter, yes I can say that, I prefer not to deal in hypotheticals. I am just being honest with you guys, you both know the answers to the questions you asked. My life is a lot easier not having to wonder what if or would have.
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Haha, dude are you kidding? If you are "emotionally unaffected" then let me ask you this, what if one of your family members was walking on that sidewalk Jackson decided to drive on while running from the cops.

I understand your reservation of judgement till trial but come on.
People who have done crimes like that in the past usually say that people shouldn't have been there at that time, even though it was public property in daylight hours.
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g6 and coupedrifter, yes I can say that, I prefer not to deal in hypotheticals, I am just being honest with you guys, you both know the answers to the questions you asked. My life is a lot easier not having to wonder what if or would have.
Sadly, that's not hypothetical. I have known a lot of people who were killed by drunk drivers and people running from the law. If they weren't my close friends then they were my friends' close friends. There is one thread on here where the guy's mom was killed.

I envy your sheltered life where you don't have to deal with traumatic ordeals like this, but for the rest of us, we have to deal with it every day. Hide your head in the sand all you want, but that's the world we live in.

People are careless and reckless. They do something wrong and then they try to get away. I see at least one serious accident a week because somebody did something stupid.

It's not hypothetical.

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So if I'm coming home from work and somebody flies through a stoplight and kills me, you're "emotionally unaffected" by that?
I asked you how you would feel if someone got killed. I know what I would answer, but I don't know what you would answer. I don't make any assumptions.
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g6 and coupedrifter, yes I can say that, I prefer not to deal in hypotheticals. I am just being honest with you guys, you both know the answers to the questions you asked. My life is a lot easier not having to wonder what if or would have.
You are avoiding the question.

Just because you "dont deal in hypotheticals" doesnt mean it can't happen to you or someone you know. I appreciate your honesty, I just hope life is full of roses and nothing ever F'ed up happens to you.
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I would be greatly concerned and scared and angry if someone I loved was killed in a hit and run.

If you were killed in a hit and run I would not care, my heart would ache for your loved ones, and I would quickly forget about you.

I dont care about people I will never meet. Maybe thats better?

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Maybe I chose the wrong word, I prefer not to speculate about those kind of things because I do not need the stress.

I also understand that you can only form your opinion of me by what I provide on this board. I have dealt with loss as much as anyone else here, I choose not to share that, because that grief is my own, I do not need crutches or seek solace from anothers pity. Sheltered is not a word I would use to describe my own existence.
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Get over it. Do what you want. It's not a big deal. Nobody cares any way.

It's just this part of your post that rubbed people the wrong way:

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He's your boy. He messed up. Whatever. Help get him straight (say don't run from cops, get a lawyer, get some counseling and maybe medical help, whatever) or kick him to the curb. Your choice.

Just don't say you back up your boy even when he does something that is clearly wrong. Okay?

You are hypocritical for these reasons:

1) You say you don't like to deal with hypothetical situations. Yet, you say he endangered others. Isn't that hypotethical until all the facts are released?

2) You say you reserve judgement until the facts are released. Yet, you say you have no feelings when he endangered others. Isn't that passing judgement on a hypothetical asserted to be true to support your conclusion?

3) You say you don't want to share your losses. Yet, you say you lost as much as anyone else. Isn't that sharing your losses?

Do what you want. Just don't get high and mighty with your hipocrisy.


Problem solved. Move on with the thread.
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We can wonder "what if" all day but the fact that Rampage is a public danger is fact and I don't want him on the streets where I drive (hypothetical or not).

The courts can work out the details of why but it is fact that he ran from the cops and got arrested.
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We can wonder "what if" all day but the fact that Rampage is a public danger is fact and I don't want him on the streets where I drive (hypothetical or not).
The only reason I speak up is because his truck is bigger than mine. Might = right

Otherwise, I wouldn't really care
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Get over it. Do what you want. It's not a big deal. Nobody cares any way.

It's just this part of your post that rubbed people the wrong way:



He's your boy. He messed up. Whatever. Help get him straight (say don't run from cops, get a lawyer, get some counseling and maybe medical help, whatever) or kick him to the curb. Your choice.

Just don't say you back up your boy even when he does something that is clearly wrong. Okay?

You are hypocritical for these reasons:

1) You say you don't like to deal with hypothetical situations. Yet, you say he endangered others. Isn't that hypotethical until all the facts are released?

Nope, I guess a couple people had to dive outta the way from what I read on mma.tv thats what I was basing htat on

2) You say you reserve judgement until the facts are released. Yet, you say you have no feelings when he endangered others. Isn't that passing judgement on a hypothetical asserted to be true to support your conclusion?

no.

3) You say you don't want to share your losses. Yet, you say you lost as much as anyone else. Isn't that sharing your losses?

Not at all, give me a break.

Do what you want. Just don't get high and mighty with your hipocrisy.


Problem solved. Move on with the thread.
I was just saying what I felt, you guys came at me. Whats the motivation? I am not acting high and mighty, I'm just clarifying my statement, since you guys had opinions about it thats all, its all cool on my end gentlemen.
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so he ran from the cops with a vynle of himself on his truck, and the ufc logo on the side of the truck? and dana white still bailed him out?

all hope is lost for ufc. its too bad too.
i mean they dont make enough money for the fights, alot of the guys dont make shit in comparison to other sports. i mean look at boxers and golfers. ufc is much more athletically challenging than golf or boxing, and the get paid less. he should have been left in jail.
and i think he needs to work out his brain and learn some common sense.
same goes for dana white.
and didnt he just kick someone off the show last season for getting drunk and saying im a ufc fighter? but he is okay with rampage going on a rampage?
so lame.
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link: News: 'Rampage' Jackson says he was delirious during chase | jackson, police, brian, chase, friend - OCRegister.com

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Ultimate Fighting ex-champ says he hadn't slept or eaten before pursuit that left behind crunched cars and scare people.

By LARRY WELBORN
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SANTA ANA – Ultimate Fighting Championship brawler Quinton "Rampage" Jackson said he hadn't slept for days, wasn't eating and was mentally exhausted and delirious when he led police on a wild chase last month.
Jackson, a former UFC champion who is one of the biggest names in one of the fastest-growing sports, said he also felt there was a spiritual war going on in his mind between God and the devil when he raced down Newport Boulevard on July 15, leaving a wake of rumpled cars, frightened pedestrians and angry police.
He said he thought he was on a mission to save a friend – who had recently lost his faith in God – and was unaware that he had hit any other cars or was being pursued by a phalanx of police cars.
"I thought I heard the voice of God telling me to go save Brian," he said in an interview Thursday after his arraignment on two felony evading arrest charges. "I felt if I didn't get to Brian, he would die."
Now, he says, he believes he was irrational because of lack of sleep and nutrition.
"What was I thinking?" he said. "l know now that Brian was never in danger. … But I really thought at the time that he was about to die."
Jackson said he takes "full responsibility" for what happened, adding that he apologizes to "everyone who was affected."
He said his primary worry after he came to his senses was whether anyone was hurt in the wild bumper car-like chase that began where the 55 Freeway empties out onto Newport Boulevard and ended in front of his friend Brian's house on Balboa Peninsula.
Initially, police said no one was hurt in the broad daylight chase. But later, a pregnant woman who was driving a Cadillac Escalade damaged during the incident, said she had a miscarriage a few days later.
Jackson, 30, of Irvine, was charged on Tuesday with two felony evading police counts, three misdemeanor hit-and-run counts and one misdemeanor reckless driving. He was not charged in connection with the woman's miscarriage, which prosecutors say was unrelated to the collision.
If convicted, Jackson faces a maximum sentence of three years in prison.
Defense attorney Carol Lavacot entered not guilty pleas for Jackson at his arraignment Thursday morning before Superior Court Judge Vickie L. Hix, who scheduled a pre-trial hearing on the case for Oct. 9 and a preliminary hearing for Nov. 3. Jackson will remain free on $25,000 bail.
He said he is not worried about the outcome of his court case. "I am a man who believes everything happens for a reason. Maybe something good will happen out of this."
Jackson, an intense battler known for the huge chain he wore around his neck before bouts inside the UFC cage, is accused of crashing into three vehicles and narrowly missing several pedestrians and bicyclists.
Police say that during the chase Jackson crossed over the center median in his lifted Ford 350 pickup truck, drove up on a sidewalk sending pedestrians leaping out of his way, raced down the wrong side of Newport Boulevard, and ran through several red lights. Jackson was talking on the phone throughout most of the chase, according to witnesses, and seemed to be unaware that for most of the time he was riding on three tires and a rim.
Jackson said that he remembers driving over the median, almost hitting a woman at a bus bench on a sidewalk, driving on the wrong side of the road, and that something was wrong with one of his tires.
But he insisted that he did not know that he had crashed into any other cars or that police cars were chasing him with red lights flashing and sirens wailing.
Jackson also said he was not depressed or worried that he had recently lost his UFC light-heavyweight belt in a fight in early July to contender Forrest Griffen. He said he believed he had won that fight and would get the championship back in a big pay-day rematch.
But he said he was depressed and obsessed after learning that his best friend, who was also one of his employees, had allegedly been cheating him out of money.
Losing the cash, he said, wasn't as painful as learning that his friend was behind what he called a betrayal. The friend, who he declined to identify, was like a father to him. He said they prayed together and that he felt like they were family.
Jackson said his mind started to obsessively dwell on the betrayal, prompting him to lose his appetite and a lot of sleep.
And then to compound things, Jackson said, he stayed awake for most of the night before the wild pursuit watching the movie "The Secret" on his DVD player, over and over again. "The Secret" is a story about using free will to make things happen in life. The film has been featured on the Oprah Winfrey show and has been used as motivation in court-ordered classes for drunken-drivers, according to Lavacot.
Jackson said he watched the movie to the end that night and saw its message in a new light. Jackson, who became a born-again Christian about four years ago, said he connected the teachings of the movie with the teachings of the Bible.
"The Bible told me to have faith," he said. "But 'The Secret' taught me how to have faith."
But then he also remembered he had loaned a copy of "The Secret" to his friend Brian Talbert, also a UFC fighter. He said he somehow got it in his mind that if he didn't warn his friend to watch the movie all the way to the end, Brian would die.
When Jackson pulled over after the five-mile police chase on July 15, he was in front of Brian's house on Balboa Peninsula.
Lavacot said that Jackson, because of his mental state, was unaware that he was breaking any laws during the chase.
"The law says you have to have criminal intent. He didn't have it," Lavacot said.
"You can analogize this to somebody whose child is dying," she added. "Are they going to slow down or stop and wait for an ambulance? Or are they going to do everything they can to get that child to the hospital?"
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my favorite was when he said he "had a spritual war going on in his head between God and the Devil"
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Cliffs:

1 - gets into a hit and run...
2 - ... followed by a high speed chase.
3 - Gets caught...

Care to see what he was driving? Click the link:
Cops Say Jackson Went On Rampage - TMZ.com

Quinton Jackson, if you're going to run from the police following a hit and run accident, DO NOT do it in a truck with a picture of you in a fucking dogchain emblazoned upon the side.
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