What does it take to get 18k or more for a swap 240sx!!!

[devonkyle77]

18k = 40k invested, lol.

who the hell spends 18k on an s chassis? it would have to do everything up to and including suck cock to justify that.

[usdm180sx]

Originally Posted by devonkyle77

who the hell spends 18k on an s chassis?

People who don't have to ask if they can afford it. Or people who just don't care.

[devonkyle77]

thats the poorest investment ever, haha.
i have almost 30k in my kouki and its still a piece of shit. and if i were to sell it id get no more than 13 or 14 if im extremely lucky

[Chaws15]

Originally Posted by devonkyle77

thats the poorest investment ever, haha.
i have almost 30k in my kouki and its still a piece of shit. and if i were to sell it id get no more than 13 or 14 if im extremely lucky

You just went from saying "who would ever spend 18k on their S-chassis??" to "I've spent almost 30k on my kouki". You're making quite the contradiction there.

[ESmorz]

Originally Posted by Chaws15

You just went from saying "who would ever spend 18k on their S-chassis??" to "I've spent almost 30k on my kouki". You're making quite the contradiction there.

It's one thing when you spend the money on all the parts to modify a car you already have. It's another when you are just buying the modified car.

[devonkyle77]

thanks esmorz

what i meant was, who is going to pay 18k outright for an s chassis.
i paid 14 for kouki in 2001. a 98 kouki can now be had for like 3500 bucks....
these cars have depreciated immensely.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Originally Posted by Flicktitty

too me it's all on what YOU WANT.

To me, The blue one is bad as fuck! Nice motor, Nice wheels, Nice paint,NICE!
but TO ME, i could do without the cage and gutted interior. And too me, the car isn't worth 18K for 18K i've seen turbo IS300's I've seen high mileage TT Supra's you can find NICE FD RX-7's you can get a Audi S4, Fuck you could get a C5 Vette.

The Red Zenki with the 700WHP 2JZ. Is the RIGHT CAR FOR ME.
if i could change anything on it i would have it a solid color (the flat/matte) doesn't do alot for me. But the wheels, the paint,body work, Motor,etc is all SPOT on and i think 18K for that car is pretty good.

A LSX/T56 Could get some good money depending how well the rest of the car is. OP i think your car from what i've seen of it is worth a good 15-18K BUT TO ME, i would have a hard time paying anywhere over 15K for one no matter how much is put into it, cause at the end of the day it's still a 240sx.

thanx for the positive comments in regards to me. there is just something about that 2Jz s14....its just sexy

[MadScientist]

OK I'll bite on this thread.....

I purchased my 1997 240sx Base Model back in 1999 for $16,000.
Up untill about 2002 the car held value above the $10,000 mark.
Currently, I see S14 Base Models going for $2000... even less... depending on condition.
However... JDM S14 models Imported to the US are selling for well into the $20,000 in stock trim.

How someone builds a car and the materials choosen declare the value... I hate to point fingers but Megan Racing/ Agency Power/ ebay parts/ even down to using different manufactures like having SPL Toe Rod and Kazama Traction Rod is a No-No in my book... keep it all one Brand in a given area.

My Car... the one I have spent over 4 years planning and building with my own sweat and blood, not to mention hard earned cash... even selling myself to gain a possable sponsorship... Not worth $18K????? You Can Not Build My Car... for $18K!!! I have just in parts... over $45K... most of you will jump out of your seats and bug out, but the truth is... shit adds up fast when you build something the right way... down to the Cusco Bronze Shifter Cap.

You build it cheep.... it sells cheep.
You build it right.... it sells higher.
You build it for you, not to re-sell, or because its the cool new drift car, you don't build to impress girls or some dueshbag on the other end of some internet connection. Build it for YOU, How you want it, keep it forever, and it will be priceless.

I will Not for one second even consider selling my car for anything less then $25,000 in its current (as is) condition!

That is My Opinion!!

-Drew

[usdm180sx]

When I built my s14 I didn't think I would sell it. It's my hobby so I don't build cars with what I will sell them for when I'm done in my mind.

[Chaws15]

Originally Posted by ESmorz

It's one thing when you spend the money on all the parts to modify a car you already have. It's another when you are just buying the modified car.

We need a Courage the Cowardly Dog smilie, just for me!!

Originally Posted by devonkyle77

thanks esmorz

what i meant was, who is going to pay 18k outright for an s chassis.
i paid 14 for kouki in 2001. a 98 kouki can now be had for like 3500 bucks....
these cars have depreciated immensely.

I understand the circumstances, I was just solely looking on price, my bad. Don't get me wrong, I'll be dumping way too much on my S14 just to get it to stock specs (I'm going to do what Petrol did and refurbish my car).

At the end of it all, what would it be worth to some bloke off the streets? Probably not much. But I'm going to do it because she's mine and I can do what I please. And for that, she's priceless.

[smelly240]

IMO REDSQUARE's car is bad enough to be worth 18K.

that shits nice and IIRC - Original owner?

[Icy13]

The problem with the 2jz red 240 is that anyone who will appreciate the love that went into that car and the glory that it can achieve would not drop 18K on an already modded car; they would have to have enough knowledge to build it themselves and very likely the will to build it to appreciate what that car is. What it is is an excellent example of someone who planned exactly what they wanted and executed it to their desire.

Remember: cars are NOT an investment... you dont make money modifying a car. Therefore, IMO, if you are to modify a car you better be doing it for some reason other than money (in resale, race winnings would be another story ) Otherwise, the money is literally burning up and fuming out the tail pipe. This is also why, IMO, you should NEVER take out a loan to build your car (loans are only to invest in capital, which turns a profit in the future, yay for my highschool macro-econ teacher :-P)

Final opinion: I, myself, really cannot see a reason to buy a car with 10-20K in parts added simply because anyone who can apprecaite the work would rather do the job themselves b/c the joy of a car with more part value than combined value is the work you put into it. However, knowing that people do this, I can see no other reason than because they are trying to proove something (to others, to themself, w/e)... I dont know what, but I cannot think of a legit reason to purchase a 20k modded car worth 2-5k blue book for the reasons above. Comments?

BTW Drew, I quite admire your philosophy on (build it for you and priceless) but personally think that saving money in certain places is a part of that. For example, I refuse to believe that a pipe is not a pipe (in certain positions and applications ). I dont see any problem with a megan manifold for a t25 system, for example, because such a system is not designed for the rigors of racing and a proper megan system for dd (with a flex downpipe) will never crack a megan manifold. However, I do acknowledge that often such parts indicate a poorly designed and executed vehicle however I think it wrong to deprecate a part designed to fill the dd crowd.

Konrad

[usdm180sx]

Ok. Let's set some ground rules here. Cars are a hobby not an investment. Because these cars trade for so cheap they should be considered as a hobby.

As far as investments go, buy what appreciates lease what depreciates. If you are planning to buy a 240sx as an investment, you are not wise at all.

[RurouniMidnight]

Originally Posted by MadScientist

You build it cheep.... it sells cheep.
You build it right.... it sells higher.
You build it for you, not to re-sell, or because its the cool new drift car, you don't build to impress girls or some dueshbag on the other end of some internet connection. Build it for YOU, How you want it, keep it forever, and it will be priceless.

-Drew

Amen, its hard to build a car, invest alot of money into it and get what its worth, also people would rather build a car themselves i know i would. I tried to sell my car last month acctully for about a week but then decided to keep it like i had always intended on doing forever, i relized no one was going to give me anything close to the time and money spent but im glad now, i can keep it and finish working on it and make it like i want it.

[Red Square]

Originally Posted by smelly240

IMO REDSQUARE's car is bad enough to be worth 18K.

that shits nice and IIRC - Original owner?

not too many people know, but you could buy a brand new s14 for dirt cheap, even though they had expensive sticker prices. my base model was listed at $19,900 and an hour later i took her home for $13,900. alot of people are shock i got it for soo cheap, but nobody wanted these things, they just sat on the lot for months taking up space.

ive had 2 different older guys offer more than $20k for my car. and one younger guy wanted to trade his 1 year old 350z. but yah, i would never sell it. even if i put back all my stock parts, i wouldnt sell it for $20k lol. sound pretty stupid, but when i was 16 and poor, i never work so hard in my entire life for some thing. too much sentimental value. and plus since im alittle better off now, money has less meaning.

[chibo]

Originally Posted by RUTH'LESSDET

do you know how many 97-98 240sx 's were made im curious??

Like 6k in the US.

[azndoc]

If you build a car because you think that its an investment.

Your doing it wrong.

Done.

Its not a coin collection kind of hobby.

Yes some people should start buying stamps and magic cards instead of building this whole hobby car.

[aNskY]

the only schassis i would pay 18k for is a low milage, street legal s15.
spending $20k on an s14 build does NOT make it worth anything close to that.

[Erjay1]

I dont think it matters or should matter unless its your car that's for sale. I can have a sh1tty $2k car, but if I want to sell it for $18k, then thats what I'll TRY and do. Doesn't mean I'll be able to sell it but hey that would be my problem right?

[S14DRFTX]

if you save this thread ..... and look at it in like ten years .......I think we will get a laugh out of it.....

I have been offered 14k for my car....98s14........... and like a bunch of people have said I have like 50k plus into my car ....... I wouldnt and couldnt sell it.....one cause i love it..... and another because i ant that generous to anybody...
I rather have it to give to my son then give away 35 grand to some kid that going to put it into the wall anyway

Alex

[aznpoopy]

Originally Posted by RUTH'LESSDET

LOL I know but...why would a 1993 rx7 with same swap be worth that an more??

the 1993 rx7 bone stock in fair condition with 100k on it (unblown) is valued at 12-13k. with a blown REW the 3rd gen is still worth 5-8k. in comparison, you'd be lucky to pull in 7-8k for a fair condition kouki 240. if its absolutely mint you might get 10k stock. if its blown, it might be worth a 1-2k tops.

in short, trying to get a 240sx to 18k is more comparable to getting a FD to 25k or so

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Originally Posted by S14DRFTX

if you save this thread ..... and look at it in like ten years .......I think we will get a laugh out of it.....

I have been offered 14k for my car....98s14........... and like a bunch of people have said I have like 50k plus into my car ....... I wouldnt and couldnt sell it.....one cause i love it..... and another because i ant that generous to anybody...
I rather have it to give to my son then give away 35 grand to some kid that going to put it into the wall anyway

Alex

malaka you have one of the best looking original kouki's ive ever seen in person here on the east coast... BAR NONE!!

[C. Anderson]

IMO it's like buying a brand new car, as soon as you drive it off the lot it depreciates %10 or more. Just for instance, I know it's not down to a science like this, as soon as you buy those $1200 coilovers and install them you can get about another $800 for the car. Like said in some of these other posts, 240s are not collectibles and probably never will be compared to mk4 supras, fds, nsx's, etc. which were produced in lower numbers and designed to be "race cars".

[OBEEWON]

Red Square has the best car on this site.

He also has one of the best screen names second to me...

Trying to decide a modified cars worth is like trying to figure out what type of girl is best to marry. You just cant put it in a box. Not possible.

I recently was in a wreck and produced over $13k in reciepts which wasn't even all my modifications (no cosmetic modifications included) and my car was still totaled.

Earlier this year I sold the car for $17k and bought it back like a dummy.

[S13shaka]

what does it take to get 18k or more?

a sucker.

[LA_phantom_240]

IMHO no street legal S13 or S14 is worth $18k or more.

[drift freaq]

Wow, I think Norm said it best. He got 18k for his S14. I got 12,500. for my RB powered S13. Fact is would I get that today for the same car? Hard to say. I build my cars because I want to.
Some would say I am insane for doing my current build. I won't sell it unless someone pays me exactly what I want out of it for my work. Will that be more than it cost me to build? Hell yes! Labor hours equal money as well as money invested.

Anyone who says you can't build a car and turn a profit? Well they are either not pro's or they are hobbyist collectors.
This is not meant as an insult either, its just a fact. People have been building customized cars for profit since the the mid 50's. Not everyone can do this. Not everyone can sell a car for more money than it cost them to build.
If a person is willing to pay whatever a person wants for the car then they(the person selling ) has done his homework. Or the person buying just wants that particular car so bad and see's that it would be harder for him or her to do it their selves.

In the end whether you think its right or wrong worth it or not its done. I can tell you people have said my car was well worth what it sold for. Others have said it was not. Most of you speak out of your own personal opinion having nothing to do with how much the person invested in time and money. You're not that them so your judgement may be complete ass talk. Get over. If you have to complain about the car not being worth that much your probably a broke ass that could not afford it to begin with.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Originally Posted by 95drifto

IMO it's like buying a brand new car, as soon as you drive it off the lot it depreciates %10 or more. Just for instance, I know it's not down to a science like this, as soon as you buy those $1200 coilovers and install them you can get about another $800 for the car. Like said in some of these other posts, 240s are not collectibles and probably never will be compared to mk4 supras, fds, nsx's, etc. which were produced in lower numbers and designed to be "race cars".

I dont agree with you completely. IMO Kouki's are collectibles. Maybe not recognized by everyone but We all know they are hard to come by, and were produced in limited quantities.

[OBEEWON]

In that case Verts and two tones are too.

[nismo tuned s14]

http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/205769...op-secret.html

That car is worth it, for sure.