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keMz · 03-31-2009, 05:52 AM

any input?

just curious who prefers what..

atm: i got a os giken but want to replace cuz it has choke burns / etc

but debating what to replace with.. os giken runs over 1k where as act 6puck + act light flywheel will run like 600..

THANKS!

Sileighty_85 · 03-31-2009, 06:00 AM

all depends on your power goals

I have an unsprung OS Giken Twin Plate in mine and I Love It
Not to bad for DD, sucks some times in stop and go (if your tired)

I know it will never slip lol

*fliprayzin240sx* · 03-31-2009, 06:19 AM

^^^ Im with him....

I had a 6 puck unsprung with a Nismo Flywheel in my old S14 in the states. That shit was a bitch driving in Frisko, while in traffic.

Now I got an Os Giken TS2BD twin plate...only clutch ill swap it for would be a 3-plate clutch when/if I go RB25 tranny.

keMz · 03-31-2009, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sileighty_85

all depends on your power goals

i have an unsprung os giken twin plate in mine and i love it
not to bad for dd, sucks some times in stop and go (if your tired)

i know it will never slip lol

vouch that

keMz · 03-31-2009, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

^^^ Im with him....

I had a 6 puck unsprung with a Nismo Flywheel in my old S14 in the states. That shit was a bitch driving in Frisko, while in traffic.

Now I got an Os Giken TS2BD twin plate...only clutch ill swap it for would be a 3-plate clutch when/if I go RB25 tranny.

FTW Clutch ^^

*fliprayzin240sx* · 03-31-2009, 09:00 PM

TS2BD I got is on its 2nd rebuild kit. The guy who had it bought it used and rebuilt it back in 2003. I bought the car from him in 07 and the clutch started slipping when I upgraded the turbo from a T518Z to a GT3071R. I bought a fresh rebuild kit for it (new clutch disk, intermediate plate, pressure plate and bolts), took the cage off and got the flywheel resurfaced. So basically 2 rebuild kits later, the clutch is still good. Now im just worried of blowing trannies since SR trannies are made of glass, having over 400hp doesnt help either.

Sileighty_85 · 03-31-2009, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

TS2BD I got is on its 2nd rebuild kit. The guy who had it bought it used and rebuilt it back in 2003. I bought the car from him in 07 and the clutch started slipping when I upgraded the turbo from a T518Z to a GT3071R. I bought a fresh rebuild kit for it (new clutch disk, intermediate plate, pressure plate and bolts), took the cage off and got the flywheel resurfaced. So basically 2 rebuild kits later, the clutch is still good. Now im just worried of blowing trannies since SR trannies are made of glass, having over 400hp doesnt help either.

How long did yours last or how long has it been since the rebuild? just so i can get an estimate on when i should look in to buying another rebuild kit.

mayco_86 · 03-31-2009, 10:12 PM

GO with the OS Giken clutch. Ive had a triple and twin plate and they have both been really good.

MadScientist · 03-31-2009, 10:13 PM

This is interesting to see.. I have a OS Giken STR Twin Plate in the S14SR and the Evo9MR.

Oddly none of the Evo guys run Giken!!?!!

I must say Twin Plate is a must over 400hp... thats at the fly... not the wheels.
Daily Driving isn't bad but Stop and Go is murder... you will also learn to use a clutch corectly if you go un-sprung.

Not to complicate matters but every D1 driver is sponsored by ORC (ogura) but runs an OS Giken... ORC is big and makes good street production clutches, but fails at race compounds... so its just advertising space for them... and one less competitor for OS Giken.

-Drew

*fliprayzin240sx* · 04-01-2009, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

How long did yours last or how long has it been since the rebuild? just so i can get an estimate on when i should look in to buying another rebuild kit.

Well like I said, the guy who owned the car prior to me did a full rebuild back in 03. Thats when he did the clutch. 4 yrs of him driving like a bat out of hell, dragging on Mizugama, it lasted 4 yrs. Even then it was still good until I upgraded to a bigger turbo. It was fine with the old Greddy T518Z turbo...

As far as Ogura, I wasnt too impressed. I had a single plate 409 and that shit was slipping on my car worst than my shredded twins before I rebuilt them. Basically, I got the 409 to replace the TS2BD, slapped it on, it sucked. Thing had a lot of life on it (about a year old before the car got parted out). Sold the 409 and got enough money to get the rebuild parts for the TS2BD ($600 roughly).

keMz · 04-01-2009, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayco_86

GO with the OS Giken clutch. Ive had a triple and twin plate and they have both been really good.

yah even my super single os giken clutch was sexy..

just going to upgrade and was seeing the input on giken

cuz it looks like its going to run me over 2k..

my os giken super single has choke burns and the bell housing like ate my plate

*fliprayzin240sx* · 04-01-2009, 02:03 AM

Single plates shouldnt cost more than $1000

Pignose_s13 · 04-01-2009, 02:16 AM

i have a blitz active twin disk similar to the OS giken ... great clutches but like you mentioned stop and go cant get alittle anoying lol but not bad after you get used to it

GabeS14 · 04-01-2009, 02:59 AM

Single plates should actually be in the 900 range if you do a lot of searching.
if you have the cash def get the Os Giken, they are the best clutches.

I bought my Blitz twin plate(also made by OS Giken) for $1000.

Having a twin plate is only worth it if you are really putting down near or above 400hp, less than 350 a six puck is all you need.
like others stated stop and go is a hassle even when you get used to it, it's not that it gets easier, it's just that5 you get used to putting up with it .haha
but when you drop the clutch you know all the power is going to the wheels..
before the blitz I had a Spec stage 3+ supposedly should handle 450 hp, after installing the 2871r and boosting 20psi it basically destroyed the clutch in less than 3 months..lol

keMz · 04-01-2009, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe╚╗14

Single plates should actually be in the 900 range if you do a lot of searching.
if you have the cash def get the Os Giken, they are the best clutches.

I bought my Blitz twin plate(also made by OS Giken) for $1000.

Having a twin plate is only worth it if you are really putting down near or above 400hp, less than 350 a six puck is all you need.
like others stated stop and go is a hassle even when you get used to it, it's not that it gets easier, it's just that5 you get used to putting up with it .haha
but when you drop the clutch you know all the power is going to the wheels..
before the blitz I had a Spec stage 3+ supposedly should handle 450 hp, after installing the 2871r and boosting 20psi it basically destroyed the clutch in less than 3 months..lol

new or used?

thx bro.. trying to see where to order it from since im in hawaii an all..
fr sports is one of the only shipping friendly sites..

Zerolift Autolab · 04-01-2009, 07:23 PM

I am direct with OS if any of you folks need parts

slider2828 · 04-01-2009, 07:27 PM

Just to add to the thread... Its all about TQ and not HP that you rate a clutch... And yes twin plates are awesome, but I have had a RPS Max Turbo Street Clutch for the last 3 years putting down 300 ftlb of tq at 4800 rpm.... No slip or anything... I do a lot of track days and it goes well... I have heard good and bad stories, so I am torn, but I think I will try another after this one goes out.

Ceepo · 04-01-2009, 07:34 PM

Any more info or people that have used the Unsprung Act 6 puck clutch, or is it work it for the 50-60 more dollors for the Sprung one? i am going to be purchasing a clutch soon and was just curious...

keMz · 04-01-2009, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerolift Autolab

I am direct with OS if any of you folks need parts

pm sent

OS Giken Vs Blitz?

Giken Make Blitz Clutchs!??!?!

Zerolift Autolab · 04-01-2009, 07:50 PM

OS makes parts and assemblies for MANY other companies.
Steel & Aluminum

chaseSR86 · 04-01-2009, 08:32 PM

Any twin disk is gunna eat SR trannys unless you drive it on the street like a wuss.

Twin disc = Z32 tranny

I have a spec stage 3 in my 2817r powered SR now probably 420+hp. It holds it however you cant do clutch kicks or shift lock in it drifting.

Just picked up a Blitz supersingle for 900$ You can convert them to twin discs if you get the Z32 tranny otherwise you'll just be blowing up trannys left and right with a twin disc.

This is in a strict drift car no street driving.

GabeS14 · 04-01-2009, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keMz

new or used?

thx bro.. trying to see where to order it from since im in hawaii an all..
fr sports is one of the only shipping friendly sites..

65050 Nissan - Silvia - PS13,S14 - SR20DET - Single Plate US $ 846.20
Blitz - Active Clutch - Nengun Performance

Nengum performance, even cheaper than i thought..!!
I bought mine new from a guy on here he had it for a while but never installed, he had lost the release bearing though it cost me like 20 bucks.
anyways this one i posted above is the same, and you can upgrade to twin disc if you want for a few hundred more later when u need it!

*fliprayzin240sx* · 04-02-2009, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceepo

Any more info or people that have used the Unsprung Act 6 puck clutch, or is it work it for the 50-60 more dollors for the Sprung one? i am going to be purchasing a clutch soon and was just curious...

Do not and I mean DO NOT get an unsprung 6 puck...its touchy as hell and your left leg will be getting alot of work out.

jackal264 · 04-02-2009, 05:42 AM

i want to add another pos rep for rps max series clutches. they run exedy discs and i've been pounding on mine for over 4 years now. i run a full face disk so streetability is a non issue, on a car making 300rwhp. i've replaced the disk once about 6 months ago and haven't looked back. car sees plenty of track days to. 450tq holding with the full face and 550 with the 6 puck. phase2 has them listed for 385. pressure plates come with a lifetime warranty to.

Soup Nazi · 04-02-2009, 01:10 PM

So whats the Hp/TQ rating for the OS Single? I'm thinking the Single is all I need.

Ceepo · 04-02-2009, 01:29 PM

Does a Sprung 6puck clutch make it easier to engauge the clutch and such, im confused... lol... i have read that the unsprung is hell on trannys, doest the sprung clutch help with disengagment and engagment...

IIIXziuR · 04-02-2009, 01:39 PM

So ORC 409 is kinda sucky?

I have one laying around that I was going to rebuild.
I don't want to spend the time & money and have a clutch that I can't whomp on some.

Def · 04-02-2009, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceepo

Does a Sprung 6puck clutch make it easier to engauge the clutch and such, im confused... lol... i have read that the unsprung is hell on trannys, doest the sprung clutch help with disengagment and engagment...

It smooths out the clutch a bit. I didn't like driving my ACT unsprung 6 puck at all. You had to be super aggressive starting off on hills(I have a 10.5 lb TODA flywheel), and generally it felt like you're beating on the trans to drive it smooth in normal driving.

keMz · 04-02-2009, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IIIXziuR

So ORC 409 is kinda sucky?

I have one laying around that I was going to rebuild.
I don't want to spend the time & money and have a clutch that I can't whomp on some.

anyone got input on EXEDY?

EDacIouSX · 04-02-2009, 09:42 PM

yea i am surprised, so you all are saying Ogura Racing Clutch isn't really that good of a company?

03-31-2009, 05:52 AM	#1
keMz Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hawaii Posts: 209 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	OS Giken VS ACT 6puck any input? just curious who prefers what.. atm: i got a os giken but want to replace cuz it has choke burns / etc but debating what to replace with.. os giken runs over 1k where as act 6puck + act light flywheel will run like 600.. THANKS!

03-31-2009, 06:00 AM	#2
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	all depends on your power goals I have an unsprung OS Giken Twin Plate in mine and I Love It Not to bad for DD, sucks some times in stop and go (if your tired) I know it will never slip lol __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

03-31-2009, 06:19 AM	#3
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	^^^ Im with him.... I had a 6 puck unsprung with a Nismo Flywheel in my old S14 in the states. That shit was a bitch driving in Frisko, while in traffic. Now I got an Os Giken TS2BD twin plate...only clutch ill swap it for would be a 3-plate clutch when/if I go RB25 tranny. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

03-31-2009, 09:00 PM	#6
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	TS2BD I got is on its 2nd rebuild kit. The guy who had it bought it used and rebuilt it back in 2003. I bought the car from him in 07 and the clutch started slipping when I upgraded the turbo from a T518Z to a GT3071R. I bought a fresh rebuild kit for it (new clutch disk, intermediate plate, pressure plate and bolts), took the cage off and got the flywheel resurfaced. So basically 2 rebuild kits later, the clutch is still good. Now im just worried of blowing trannies since SR trannies are made of glass, having over 400hp doesnt help either. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

04-01-2009, 02:03 AM	#12
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Single plates shouldnt cost more than $1000 __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

03-31-2009, 10:12 PM	#8
mayco_86 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cali Posts: 988 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	GO with the OS Giken clutch. Ive had a triple and twin plate and they have both been really good.

03-31-2009, 10:13 PM	#9
MadScientist Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NOLA Age: 48 Posts: 1,972 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	This is interesting to see.. I have a OS Giken STR Twin Plate in the S14SR and the Evo9MR. Oddly none of the Evo guys run Giken!!?!! I must say Twin Plate is a must over 400hp... thats at the fly... not the wheels. Daily Driving isn't bad but Stop and Go is murder... you will also learn to use a clutch corectly if you go un-sprung. Not to complicate matters but every D1 driver is sponsored by ORC (ogura) but runs an OS Giken... ORC is big and makes good street production clutches, but fails at race compounds... so its just advertising space for them... and one less competitor for OS Giken. -Drew

04-01-2009, 02:16 AM	#13
Pignose_s13 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Palm Coast, Florida Age: 36 Posts: 20 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have a blitz active twin disk similar to the OS giken ... great clutches but like you mentioned stop and go cant get alittle anoying lol but not bad after you get used to it

04-01-2009, 02:59 AM	#14
GabeS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sin City Las Vegas Posts: 4,521 Trader Rating: (27) Rides Gallery: GabeS14 Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Single plates should actually be in the 900 range if you do a lot of searching. if you have the cash def get the Os Giken, they are the best clutches. I bought my Blitz twin plate(also made by OS Giken) for $1000. Having a twin plate is only worth it if you are really putting down near or above 400hp, less than 350 a six puck is all you need. like others stated stop and go is a hassle even when you get used to it, it's not that it gets easier, it's just that5 you get used to putting up with it .haha but when you drop the clutch you know all the power is going to the wheels.. before the blitz I had a Spec stage 3+ supposedly should handle 450 hp, after installing the 2871r and boosting 20psi it basically destroyed the clutch in less than 3 months..lol __________________ E92 M3 19" wheels for sale///JWT Cams and Springs +30whp for sale... cheap.

04-01-2009, 07:23 PM	#16
Zerolift Autolab Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fairfield, OH 45014 Age: 42 Posts: 2,804 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	I am direct with OS if any of you folks need parts __________________ Contact: Phone - 513-874-2508 AIM - ZLR0bert Email - [email protected] Zerolift facebook - http://www.facebook.com/Zerolift

04-01-2009, 07:27 PM	#17
slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 6,040 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Just to add to the thread... Its all about TQ and not HP that you rate a clutch... And yes twin plates are awesome, but I have had a RPS Max Turbo Street Clutch for the last 3 years putting down 300 ftlb of tq at 4800 rpm.... No slip or anything... I do a lot of track days and it goes well... I have heard good and bad stories, so I am torn, but I think I will try another after this one goes out. __________________ Turn and Burn!

04-01-2009, 07:34 PM	#18
Ceepo Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cedar City, Utah Posts: 2,007 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: Ceepo Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Any more info or people that have used the Unsprung Act 6 puck clutch, or is it work it for the 50-60 more dollors for the Sprung one? i am going to be purchasing a clutch soon and was just curious... __________________ TW: http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/390459...d9s-coils.html

04-01-2009, 07:50 PM	#20
Zerolift Autolab Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fairfield, OH 45014 Age: 42 Posts: 2,804 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	OS makes parts and assemblies for MANY other companies. Steel & Aluminum __________________ Contact: Phone - 513-874-2508 AIM - ZLR0bert Email - [email protected] Zerolift facebook - http://www.facebook.com/Zerolift

04-01-2009, 08:32 PM	#21
chaseSR86 Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Long Beach, CA Age: 40 Posts: 174 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Any twin disk is gunna eat SR trannys unless you drive it on the street like a wuss. Twin disc = Z32 tranny I have a spec stage 3 in my 2817r powered SR now probably 420+hp. It holds it however you cant do clutch kicks or shift lock in it drifting. Just picked up a Blitz supersingle for 900$ You can convert them to twin discs if you get the Z32 tranny otherwise you'll just be blowing up trannys left and right with a twin disc. This is in a strict drift car no street driving.

04-02-2009, 05:42 AM	#24
jackal264 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: vancouver, canada Age: 39 Posts: 360 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i want to add another pos rep for rps max series clutches. they run exedy discs and i've been pounding on mine for over 4 years now. i run a full face disk so streetability is a non issue, on a car making 300rwhp. i've replaced the disk once about 6 months ago and haven't looked back. car sees plenty of track days to. 450tq holding with the full face and 550 with the 6 puck. phase2 has them listed for 385. pressure plates come with a lifetime warranty to.

04-02-2009, 01:29 PM	#26
Ceepo Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cedar City, Utah Posts: 2,007 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: Ceepo Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Does a Sprung 6puck clutch make it easier to engauge the clutch and such, im confused... lol... i have read that the unsprung is hell on trannys, doest the sprung clutch help with disengagment and engagment... __________________ TW: http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/390459...d9s-coils.html

04-02-2009, 01:39 PM	#27
IIIXziuR Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Left Hand Path Posts: 2,655 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	So ORC 409 is kinda sucky? I have one laying around that I was going to rebuild. I don't want to spend the time & money and have a clutch that I can't whomp on some. __________________ ... ... ... ... .

04-02-2009, 09:42 PM	#30
EDacIouSX Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles Age: 39 Posts: 4,566 Trader Rating: (53) Rides Gallery: EDacIouSX Feedback Score: 53 reviews	yea i am surprised, so you all are saying Ogura Racing Clutch isn't really that good of a company?