Harness Bar is it really worth it?

[codyace]

Originally Posted by MidwestMyriad

Not justifying that bar in any sense, BUT it is some Ebay cheapo one....the real Sparco one has solid welds for the mounts, not pivots. Looks bad either way, but probably a lesser quality tubing used, and poor execution in design. Cage is the only way. Why be cheap, it's your life.

I don't htink it would have mattered what brand it was, pivot or no pivot Even if they are welded solid, a quality bolt won't shear like that either.

Originally Posted by ericcastro

Now I gotta go double check the wraps on my harness when i have a minute.

THat's a very good video...you'd be surprised how many people at track days have their stuff wrapped wrong...it's just crazy. They also have a nice guide on their website as well that we hand out.

Originally Posted by ericcastro

I wanna know why the passenger was ejected? Those 4/5 points arnt gonna do you a lot of good if they are worn slacked. And when your body slams against the harnesses that were slacked, its gonna pull on the seats, mounting points, and harness bar a lot harder then if everything was snugged and your body wasnt allowed to go into motion.

While there has got to bemore, in the same respect, a violent crash on track wouldn't be any worse (figure speeds are usually 100+ mph too)...I think harness bar, plus lack of improper securing into the car didn't help either. I mean who honestly is going to strap in 10/10th's when street driving? Probably nobody. I know that even I couldn't stand wearing a harness properly on street, as you can't see 100% like you need too on the street.

Originally Posted by lame_s13

Legitimate question; My stock 13 seat broke yesterday, and my plan was to buy a fixed back bucket, keep my stock belts for daily and pick up a harness and bar to use on track days, but I don't really know much about harness bars. After seeing this, are they just bad news? I don't really want to daily a car with a cage but is that my only safe option to run a harness?

Originally Posted by codyace

Or the fact that they are shit, made out of garbage material, and really only for those guys who want to hardpark at the local Wegmans on Friday night.

If you 'require' a harness, get a rollbar. If you can't live with a rollbar, then you don't need a harness.

i agree. rollbar or stock, thats what is advised for street cars.

Originally Posted by Taniguchi_Is_#1

werd. if you don't wrap your belts correctly, they come off. they don't bend your bar in half.
anywho, an autopower roll bar is like, $300? what's a harness bar cost? $150? just suck up the cost.

autopowers are much more expensive. i bought mine 10 years ago for that much, wholesale. maybe a bit more since it had removable cross brace & harness bar. i bought one for a buddy a couple years ago and it was closer to 500 or so. i like them. hardcore guys who are all hard for cusco will say "oh its not a good fitting bar" or "the bolt in plates are bullshit" but i dont have a problem with autopower. good stuff and well made. very heavy but very worth it.

Originally Posted by codyace

I think they are 400-450 shipped...and on top of that they are legal, and fit well. Can't ask for much more. I've had one now for quite some time...works great, fit well.

what are you, my twin brother? we keep having the same answers. BROTHER!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by codyace

On a 4 point, you slide right under neath them most of the time (submarining). A 5 point will help keep that from happening as it has that 5th lower connection between your legs. However the bar would have still collapsed, and they would have bene injured.

i run schroth 4-pt ASM... anti sub marining. ran them with my r32 seats and now with r34 seats. great harnesses, dot compliant.

[codyace]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

i like them. hardcore guys who are all hard for cusco will say "oh its not a good fitting bar" or "the bolt in plates are bullshit" but i dont have a problem with autopower. good stuff and well made. very heavy but very worth it.

Most certainly. It seems like only on the 240 forums people bash them, yet all praise the illegal/uncertified JDM bullshit like it's the best ever.

Originally Posted by ixfxi

i run schroth 4-pt ASM... anti sub marining. ran them with my r32 seats and now with r34 seats. great harnesses, dot compliant.

I just assumed that the OP being more focused on a harness bar, wasn't going to spend 350 duckies on a ASM harness so figure just get them the 5 pt That ASM harness is pretty freakin nice though for the OEM seats!