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codyace · 01-20-2016, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

That extra displacement is somewhat offset by how poorly the head flows compared to a S14SR for instance, so who knows. It may have similar results to the SR (or it may not)

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAT-PWR

Do you have any data to support this? (Not trying to start a KA/SR debate)

IIRC the KA head actually outflows the SR-DE heads almost everywehre that I've looked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rb26kouki

Built KA24DE (forged)

Gtx2867r .64
Tial mvs
Sard 850cc
JWT S1 cams
JWT ECU
Lighting MAF

Will update soon

I wonder if the .86 housing will help that 2.4 out?

RalliartRsX · 01-20-2016, 09:28 AM

Cody, looking up the numbers (after I posted the response above) you are correct! I just never updated my original post, but I will update and post flow numbers here!

Here is what I saved

KA24DE Head flow numbers

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Intake:
Valve Lift / CFM
.100" = 120.2
.200" = 195.4
.300" = 253.3
.400" = 279.2
.500" = 283.6

Exhaust:
.100" = 110.5
.200" = 165.3
.300" = 187.7
.400" = 197.4
.500" = 200.6

SR20DET

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intake test at 28in H2O, temp 88deg F
SR20DET
Lift CFM
.060 43.4
.080 60.7
.120 92.9
.180 134.5
.260 175.6
.340 192..3
.440 201.8
.460 202.3
.480 203.5
.500 203.6

exhaust test at 28in H2O, temp 95deg F

Lift CFM
.100 41.1
.140 75.0
.200 98.2
.240 106.5
.280 110.2
.360 113.0
.440 114.3
.480 114.7
.500 114.9

KAT-PWR · 01-20-2016, 10:21 AM

I did my own digging ironically enough yesterday during my physics class haha, came up with the same info. Working on porting my KA head recently

Rb26kouki · 01-20-2016, 10:32 AM

By looking at those number looks like the .86 would be a better match for the KA I'll see if I can get my hands on a .86 turbine housing as well & give both a try.

RalliartRsX · 01-20-2016, 10:36 AM

If I remember correctly, the .84 T25 flows similar to the .63 T3??

If that's the case, yeah, a T25 would be an option....although I would personally opt for the 0.63 T3 housing option.

KAT-PWR · 01-20-2016, 12:59 PM

My KA has seen mostly .63 a/r t3's or close and that seems to be favorable.

RB25GUY · 01-20-2016, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KAT-PWR

My KA has seen mostly .63 a/r t3's or close and that seems to be favorable.

I know its 2 extra cyl but i had a 3076r .63AR on my bone stock rb25det and it responded very well, made about 14 psi at around 3100 and 22 psi at 3700-4000rpm. until i got my nt05's 2nd and 3rd gear would roast my 595 ss

R3cK · 01-22-2016, 06:34 AM

CA20DET with 264/272 poncams + GTX2867r

0.64
or
0.86

?
asking for a friend, hes ready to order

jr_ss · 01-22-2016, 06:58 AM

.64, he doesn't have the extra displacement for the .8x.

JonathanPrem · 01-23-2016, 07:54 PM

Has anyone used T25 Plus housing from atp turbo for there Gt2871R or Gtx?

Its a T25 flange but flows like a T3. Is it worth the upgrade for $300 bucks when your shooting for 380whp give or take

cotbu · 01-23-2016, 08:54 PM

That quote is a marketing ploy,
Flows like a t3 part. And the standard gt2871r should make 380hp easy most people have problems making 400 though.

The answer to the 1st question is yes.

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fatduece · 01-24-2016, 12:18 AM

Can anyone measure how much room is left behind the sr20 head? My waste gate is behind the manifold. Im trying to figure out if it will work. Im also using the top port for the electronic boost controller.

BlackZenkiS14 · 01-24-2016, 04:15 PM

You should be good. I havent measured, but that looks like it will fit, it will be super close, but should be ok.

cotbu · 01-24-2016, 05:37 PM

Use a 90° etc. or banjo fitting to make the return back towards the bay a lil easier on the hoses, maybe?

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Javi802 · 01-24-2016, 05:46 PM

you could probably use a tape measure and measure the distance from the bolt hole for the engine mount on the crossmember, to the firewall. And then measure from the stud on the actual engine mount, the one currently on your engine, and see where youre at

huffandpuff00 · 01-24-2016, 05:48 PM

why not use the side port?

derass · 01-24-2016, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Javi802

you could probably use a tape measure and measure the distance from the bolt hole for the engine mount on the crossmember, to the firewall. And then measure from the stud on the actual engine mount, the one currently on your engine, and see where youre at

This is a great idea!

fatduece · 01-24-2016, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cotbu

Use a 90° etc. or banjo fitting to make the return back towards the bay a lil easier on the hoses, maybe?

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Great idea! worst case ill just do this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Javi802

you could probably use a tape measure and measure the distance from the bolt hole for the engine mount on the crossmember, to the firewall. And then measure from the stud on the actual engine mount, the one currently on your engine, and see where youre at

Thank you Ill give this a try.

Quote:

Originally Posted by huffandpuff00

why not use the side port?

Can I? Lol. I dont know shit about waste gates. Tial instruction just said the top is only electronic. If I can use the top side port then that will help me even more.

loucal · 08-26-2016, 11:13 AM

Another GTX2867 .64 reporting in.

403whp 365ft/lbs @19psi and 7700 rpm rev limit. (pump gas 93 octane)

S14Sr20det
JWT S4HL cams
Tial 38mm wastegate on stock manifold
740 hks injectors
ARP Head Studs
Cometic Headgasket
350z transmisson

Car feels fantastic and pulls all the way to redline. Cams are really a must with this turbo. I was at 21psi prior to the cams and was making 375whp so this was a very significant upgrade.

-Lou

Rb26kouki · 08-26-2016, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loucal

another gtx2867 .64 reporting in.

403whp 365ft/lbs @19psi and 7700 rpm rev limit. (pump gas 93 octane)

s14sr20det

jwt s4hl cams

tial 38mm wastegate on stock manifold

740 hks injectors

arp head studs

cometic headgasket

350z transmisson

car feels fantastic and pulls all the way to redline. Cams are really a must with this turbo. I was at 21psi prior to the cams and was making 375whp so this was a very significant upgrade.

-lou

jwt s4hl ftw

codyace · 08-26-2016, 11:19 AM

Love seeing results like this

Great stuff!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by loucal

Another GTX2867 .64 reporting in.

403whp 365ft/lbs @19psi and 7700 rpm rev limit. (pump gas 93 octane)

S14Sr20det
JWT S4HL cams
Tial 38mm wastegate on stock manifold
740 hks injectors
ARP Head Studs
Cometic Headgasket
350z transmisson

Car feels fantastic and pulls all the way to redline. Cams are really a must with this turbo. I was at 21psi prior to the cams and was making 375whp so this was a very significant upgrade.

-Lou

Rb26kouki · 08-26-2016, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loucal

Another GTX2867 .64 reporting in.

403whp 365ft/lbs @19psi and 7700 rpm rev limit. (pump gas 93 octane)

S14Sr20det

JWT S4HL cams

Tial 38mm wastegate on stock manifold

740 hks injectors

ARP Head Studs

Cometic Headgasket

350z transmisson

Car feels fantastic and pulls all the way to redline. Cams are really a must with this turbo. I was at 21psi prior to the cams and was making 375whp so this was a very significant upgrade.

-Lou

What ecu ?

loucal · 08-26-2016, 11:32 AM

AEM EMS V1 with 3.5 bar map. The only downfall of the V1 is that it cant quite control my VTC so that might be a reason to upgrade at some point as id like to have it and got my cams made specifically to keep it.

Jorgs_7 · 08-26-2016, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loucal

Another GTX2867 .64 reporting in.

403whp 365ft/lbs @19psi and 7700 rpm rev limit. (pump gas 93 octane)

S14Sr20det
JWT S4HL cams
Tial 38mm wastegate on stock manifold
740 hks injectors
ARP Head Studs
Cometic Headgasket
350z transmisson

Car feels fantastic and pulls all the way to redline. Cams are really a must with this turbo. I was at 21psi prior to the cams and was making 375whp so this was a very significant upgrade.

-Lou

This is fantastic.

RalliartRsX · 08-26-2016, 12:15 PM

Those S4 cams are no joke!

loucal · 08-26-2016, 01:15 PM

I've got a used set of S4 cams if your looking!

RalliartRsX · 08-26-2016, 01:25 PM

So you did figure out it works with the s14 SR?

loucal · 08-26-2016, 01:28 PM

No I bought brand new ones from JWT and had them drill them to retain VTC. So I still have the ones I got off of you if you know anyone interested.

derass · 08-26-2016, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loucal

Another GTX2867 .64 reporting in.

403whp 365ft/lbs @19psi and 7700 rpm rev limit. (pump gas 93 octane)

S14Sr20det
JWT S4HL cams
Tial 38mm wastegate on stock manifold
740 hks injectors
ARP Head Studs
Cometic Headgasket

Thank you for finally contributing some S4 dyno results to the forum!

cotbu · 08-26-2016, 06:33 PM

Is there a graph some where that I missed or something. That torque looks like it was sacrificed to gain hp. I want to see the birth certificate....in mean graph!

All hail the mighty s4hl...

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01-20-2016, 10:21 AM	#1023
KAT-PWR Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: US Posts: 2,040 Trader Rating: (11) Rides Gallery: KAT-PWR Feedback Score: 11 reviews	I did my own digging ironically enough yesterday during my physics class haha, came up with the same info. Working on porting my KA head recently __________________ MRP Manufacturing

01-20-2016, 12:59 PM	#1026
KAT-PWR Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: US Posts: 2,040 Trader Rating: (11) Rides Gallery: KAT-PWR Feedback Score: 11 reviews	My KA has seen mostly .63 a/r t3's or close and that seems to be favorable. __________________ MRP Manufacturing

01-22-2016, 06:58 AM	#1029
jr_ss Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pa Posts: 6,415 Trader Rating: (35) Feedback Score: 35 reviews	.64, he doesn't have the extra displacement for the .8x. __________________ My SR20VET Does your VTC gear rattle in your S14/15 SR? PM me.

01-23-2016, 07:54 PM	#1030
JonathanPrem Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 729 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Has anyone used T25 Plus housing from atp turbo for there Gt2871R or Gtx? Its a T25 flange but flows like a T3. Is it worth the upgrade for $300 bucks when your shooting for 380whp give or take __________________ IG-jonathanprem

01-23-2016, 08:54 PM	#1031
cotbu Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SWFL Age: 50 Posts: 3,318 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	That quote is a marketing ploy, Flows like a t3 part. And the standard gt2871r should make 380hp easy most people have problems making 400 though. The answer to the 1st question is yes. Sent from my SM-N910T3 using Tapatalk __________________ LoverTechnologies "Half Broken Things!"

01-20-2016, 10:32 AM	#1024
Rb26kouki Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Commerce Age: 33 Posts: 1,485 Trader Rating: (63) Feedback Score: 63 reviews	By looking at those number looks like the .86 would be a better match for the KA I'll see if I can get my hands on a .86 turbine housing as well & give both a try.

01-20-2016, 10:36 AM	#1025
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,793 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	If I remember correctly, the .84 T25 flows similar to the .63 T3?? If that's the case, yeah, a T25 would be an option....although I would personally opt for the 0.63 T3 housing option.

01-22-2016, 06:34 AM	#1028
R3cK Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: bavaria Posts: 159 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	CA20DET with 264/272 poncams + GTX2867r 0.64 or 0.86 ? asking for a friend, hes ready to order

01-24-2016, 12:18 AM	#1032
fatduece Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: hoonigay Posts: 673 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Can anyone measure how much room is left behind the sr20 head? My waste gate is behind the manifold. Im trying to figure out if it will work. Im also using the top port for the electronic boost controller.

01-24-2016, 04:15 PM	#1033
BlackZenkiS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: "St. Chuck", MO Age: 39 Posts: 2,095 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	You should be good. I havent measured, but that looks like it will fit, it will be super close, but should be ok. __________________ -Kyle

01-24-2016, 05:37 PM	#1034
cotbu Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SWFL Age: 50 Posts: 3,318 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Use a 90° etc. or banjo fitting to make the return back towards the bay a lil easier on the hoses, maybe? Sent from my SM-N910T3 using Tapatalk __________________ LoverTechnologies "Half Broken Things!"

01-24-2016, 05:46 PM	#1035
Javi802 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oklahoma Age: 33 Posts: 472 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	you could probably use a tape measure and measure the distance from the bolt hole for the engine mount on the crossmember, to the firewall. And then measure from the stud on the actual engine mount, the one currently on your engine, and see where youre at

01-24-2016, 05:48 PM	#1036
huffandpuff00 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: oregon Age: 39 Posts: 835 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	why not use the side port?

08-26-2016, 11:13 AM	#1039
loucal Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Millis MA Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Another GTX2867 .64 reporting in. 403whp 365ft/lbs @19psi and 7700 rpm rev limit. (pump gas 93 octane) S14Sr20det JWT S4HL cams Tial 38mm wastegate on stock manifold 740 hks injectors ARP Head Studs Cometic Headgasket 350z transmisson Car feels fantastic and pulls all the way to redline. Cams are really a must with this turbo. I was at 21psi prior to the cams and was making 375whp so this was a very significant upgrade. -Lou

08-26-2016, 11:32 AM	#1043
loucal Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Millis MA Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	AEM EMS V1 with 3.5 bar map. The only downfall of the V1 is that it cant quite control my VTC so that might be a reason to upgrade at some point as id like to have it and got my cams made specifically to keep it.

08-26-2016, 12:15 PM	#1045
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,793 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	Those S4 cams are no joke!

08-26-2016, 01:15 PM	#1046
loucal Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Millis MA Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I've got a used set of S4 cams if your looking!

08-26-2016, 01:25 PM	#1047
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,793 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	So you did figure out it works with the s14 SR?

08-26-2016, 01:28 PM	#1048
loucal Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Millis MA Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	No I bought brand new ones from JWT and had them drill them to retain VTC. So I still have the ones I got off of you if you know anyone interested.

08-26-2016, 06:33 PM	#1050
cotbu Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SWFL Age: 50 Posts: 3,318 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Is there a graph some where that I missed or something. That torque looks like it was sacrificed to gain hp. I want to see the birth certificate....in mean graph! All hail the mighty s4hl... Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk __________________ LoverTechnologies "Half Broken Things!"