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Old 10-10-2016, 06:57 PM   #1
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No, it was a real clusterfuck.

But BOROSUN's explanation helps a lot. I would just add that, once Past Zamasu killed Gowasu and claimed the Time Ring - It essentially ripped his being out of the time space continuum and allowed him to act outside of it. That way, he could still claim Goku's body and there still be an unchanged future version of himself. Super confusing.

He even pulled current Universe 7 Goku's body out of space time for his use! Dayum! Fuck taking a bet on another Universe's Goku's body - he wanted the one that beat him, the one he saw on Godtube.

Zamasu researched the shit out of Goku! He knew about the Heart Virus and everything. He grabbed the body that's already been cured of it. Good thing it's a kid's show or you could image how much worse it could have been for Chichi and Goten.

But it seems like there were only 2 uses of the Super Dragonballs:
Past Zamasu wished to claim Goku's body
Future Zamasu wished for immortality.

That may be the key. But they need to overpower and kill Black somehow. And hearing that they killed all the other gods makes that seem unlikely. But, seriously though? They're stronger than Beerus, Whis, Zenos and all his guards? I dunno man...
I find it hard too that Zamasu merc'd all the gods, especially when he only got Super Saiyan Rose from fighting Goku, and he was getting worked that first time he slipped into the current timeline a handful of episodes ago.

Everything said though, I still have no idea how they're going to play this one out. Everything I theorized was completely wrong. I'm excited to see what Trunks is going to do though, I was fully expecting him to go SSJ3 there. Either way, I feel like he won't stand a chance unless 1 of the 3 saiyans busts out a new transformation.

Word on the street though is that Bulma is going to get killed (I mean that's got to be the REAL reason she's there), and that the Zamasu's are going to fuse eventually. I hope they explore those plot points because shit would get mega intense.
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:53 AM   #2
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Everything said though, I still have no idea how they're going to play this one out. Everything I theorized was completely wrong. I'm excited to see what Trunks is going to do though, I was fully expecting him to go SSJ3 there. Either way, I feel like he won't stand a chance unless 1 of the 3 saiyans busts out a new transformation.
SSJ3 should be impossible for Trunks, much like Vegeta. Goku was only able to attain it because of his training when he was dead in the other world. Because he had an undead body, he didn't have a problem handling the stress of using Kaio Ken plus SSJ at the same time. Trunks and Vegeta can't touch that kind of training. I'm thinking the only reason Gotenks could achieve SSJ3 is because both were conceived from SSJ fathers, making all the transformations easier for them. Either way SSJ3 would get worked by Black & Zamasu.

Goku still hasn't used SSJ Blue + Kaio Ken yet. But I don't think that would help, since Black/Zamasu already know all about it. But it might be the key to attaining power equal to or greater than SSJ Rose... Think about it - Kaio Ken: The fighting style of a god (King Kai) combined with the Ki of the gods (SSJ Blue). When Goku used it in the tournament, it wasn't perfected. If he does master it though, maybe we'll see an SSJ Purple or something?

I wonder what would happen if they removed the Time Ring from Black's finger? Would it undo everything? Pull him back to his timeline maybe? Hmm...
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I wonder what would happen if they removed the Time Ring from Black's finger? Would it undo everything? Pull him back to his timeline maybe? Hmm...
I wondered the same thing since killing the past Zamasu did nothing.
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I havent watched super but did see the last two movies. How many ssj forms are there after 3? SSJB is im guessing better than SSJ3 and SSJG is better than SSJB. How does SSJ4 relate to any of these even though GT was "canon"
GT isn't canon, so SSJ4 doesn't even exist in anything other than GT.

So its SSJ3 > SSJ God > SSJ God Super Saiyain (later changed to just SSJ Blue).

I'm thinking there's got to be one more transformation in the future considering the enemies now.

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I would be geeking out with them but im waiting for the dub, I cant stand goku japanese voiceactor... I know its an old lady but ffs it sounds like someone playing a snapchat filter voice changer the whole episode.
It's honestly not that bad man, I hated it at first, but I've gotten used to it. Putting up with the voice is well worth being caught up with the story. They're doing a damn good job keeping everyone guessing what's going to happen next. I'll rewatch in dub also, I'm looking forward to hearing Vegeta's english lines.
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So its SSJ3 < SSJ God < SSJ God Super Saiyan (later changed to just SSJ Blue).
Fixed that for you. You had your signs backwards. The alligator always eats the greater one.
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I guess it might grow on me, I switched from dub to sub to catch up on shippuden. Wasnt that BAD but not the same imo.
GT gets a lot of hate but from what I remember it wasn't even bad. I loved playing Dragonball Budokai 3 with ssj4 gogeta
You seem to have a really high standard when it comes to anime, so let me warn you - DB Super is NOT good by any stretch of the imagination. If you're able to enjoy it at all, it's likely because of the nostalgia clouding your judgment. With that said, it's a fun watch as long as you lower your expectations.
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You seem to have a really high standard when it comes to anime,


He watches dubbed anime... how high of standards could he possibly have?
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He watches dubbed anime... how high of standards could he possibly have?


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He watches dubbed anime... how high of standards could he possibly have?
lol... good point... haha... I was just basing it on his ranking of FMA Brotherhood and Cowboy Bebop.

The only DragonBall dub I'll watch nowadays is TeamFourStar.
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DB Super is NOT good by any stretch of the imagination. If you're able to enjoy it at all, it's likely because of the nostalgia clouding your judgment. With that said, it's a fun watch as long as you lower your expectations.
Ill be honest I agree with you. DB Super is pretty much re-hashing old DBZ history. Its nothing really new that weve seen. Personally im just happy that the show is back and in a modern form
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Ill be honest I agree with you. DB Super is pretty much re-hashing old DBZ history. Its nothing really new that weve seen. Personally im just happy that the show is back and in a modern form
Worse than rehashing stories, it's just not consistent when gauging ppl's strength... Powering up used to make the whole Earth rumble. Goku and Beerus nearly destroyed the universe with the power they were putting out. Have we seen anything even remotely close to that level of strength from Black? Lol... fuck no. They just nerf Goku/Vegeta over and over & expect us to be amazed by this shit. With the power Goku & Vegeta are showing here, I'd say they're on par with some Marvel/DC B-string characters. A far cry from the days when ppl used to think they could beat Superman.

I just want Saitama to show up an destroy all of them...lol
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