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drftwerks · 07-08-2007, 09:18 PM

what is the advantage of the +pro over the reg GR???

as far as i can tell, just the helper spring.

does it help when your drop the car super low?? or not really?

thanks
Bryon

Full-Lock · 07-08-2007, 09:41 PM

i think you get a few different sets of springs with it

s14_rob · 07-08-2007, 09:44 PM

i got with my s14 gr+pros a set of 8k/6k and 9k/7k and the rears have helper springs

nissandr1ft · 07-08-2007, 09:53 PM

helper springs, and poly bushings on the lower shell casings...I think. I ended up going with the GR+ since I went with Z32 shell casings. I personally don't see much advantage besides maybe a tad softer ride daily with the helper springs.

d*star180 · 07-08-2007, 10:19 PM

I have GR+pros, my friend has GR+, were both slammed as fuck, i cant feel a difference at all. Then again im no D1 driver.

drftwerks · 07-08-2007, 10:26 PM

^^

something usefull, nice, done

Jung918 · 07-08-2007, 11:23 PM

Do you guys with the stances feel it being pretty bouncy?

d*star180 · 07-08-2007, 11:34 PM

I have the 9/7 springs on, and it is pretty bouncy in comparison to stock or spring/strut combo, but not as bad as most other coilovers. Ive ridden in Silkroad,megan, and Kts for S chassis. All were bouncier than Stance, Megan was crazy bouncy. I once rode in an Evo with Endless Super Functions, now that, was alot of a nicer ride than my stance.

articdragon192 · 07-09-2007, 12:53 AM

You mean Zeals? Zeals ride real nice.

J-Style · 07-09-2007, 01:59 AM

I can't wait till I get my Stance Basics, is that a recent picture of your car d*star180?

viscid240 · 07-09-2007, 03:35 AM

I have gr+ in my girls s14 and slammed to shit also about 1/2in of the cat to touch the ground and they still can go lower. This is of course on steelies will be a tad bit higher by the end of the week when we throw her rims on.

I put the 9/7 combo on and have the F/R settings at 9 stiffness. It is bouncy but not annoying or uncomfortable in any way.

Keep in mind it's my girls ride and she loves it and says the ride does not bother her one bit, at the rate or settings.

Jung918 · 07-09-2007, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by articdragon192

You mean Zeals? Zeals ride real nice.

Who makes Zeals? Where can I find more information on this? Does anyone have a set because I want a test ride.

cgguy · 07-09-2007, 08:51 AM

When I spoke with the Stance techs a while back he mentioned that the GR+ and the Pros were exactly the same appart from the helper spring and lower bushing. The dampers used are the same ones in both models....It's the Basics that give you a smaller diameter/differently valved shock.

So even if you bought the GR+ you could "convert" them to Pros by adding the helper spring at a later time. Stance will sell you any individual parts you'll ever need including whatever spring rates your heart desires.

I say save your money and go with the GR+

ps. Anything Zeal is going to cost you more than twice what the Stance will.

Slow Poke · 07-09-2007, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jung918

Who makes Zeals? Where can I find more information on this? Does anyone have a set because I want a test ride.

Zeal makes Zeal. lol It is a subsidiary of Endless Sport. They use Swift springs.
I used to run the super functions on my ITR. Best suspension I have ever used!

http://www.endless-sport.co.jp/suspe...kit/index.html

I don't think Zeal has a US page. Google can probably convert it for you.

Jung918 · 07-09-2007, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slow Poke

Zeal makes Zeal. lol It is a subsidiary of Endless Sport. They use Swift springs.
I used to run the super functions on my ITR. Best suspension I have ever used!

http://www.endless-sport.co.jp/suspe...kit/index.html

I don't think Zeal has a US page. Google can probably convert it for you.

It was a inside joke. I am running the function X and they came with some type-x springs. I was lucky enough to find some swift springs though. I nut in my pants everytime I ride in my car. That is how good the springs and shocks are.

FinalDrive · 07-10-2007, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slow Poke

Zeal makes Zeal. lol It is a subsidiary of Endless Sport. They use Swift springs.
I used to run the super functions on my ITR. Best suspension I have ever used!

http://www.endless-sport.co.jp/suspe...kit/index.html

I don't think Zeal has a US page. Google can probably convert it for you.

they have a US site http://www.endlessusa.com/

I have zeals on my s14...worth every penny. They even gave me a warranty certificate, how nice of them.

I have stance pro for my s13, but they aren't installed yet so I can't compare

Irukandji · 07-09-2007, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by articdragon192

You mean Zeals? Zeals ride real nice.

Ugh Zeals ride like ass. WAYY too soft for a track setup.

articdragon192 · 07-10-2007, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n1sm0r

Ugh Zeals ride like ass. WAYY too soft for a track setup.

Depends on which. I've ridden in both Function X and Function Bs. The Function Bs I believe are like 18k/12k on my friend's Evo and trust me, they are not soft at all. He has yet found need to use full stiff at the track.

EDacIouSX · 07-09-2007, 08:58 AM

My friend had zeals on his s14, second from best whichever those are. Spring rates were 10/8 on lowest setting of 1. I believe front and rear were 6 way adjustable. And let me say this about them. FUCKING BOUNCEY! but they were track only coilovers.

zeals is same company as endless

brainfood · 07-09-2007, 09:20 AM

I like my stance gr+ coilovers. I run 8k front and 7k rear. I have the helper springs on the rear. They allow you to adjust droop travel other than that I they shouldnt make a difference in ride since they will be compressed anytime there is weight on the coilover.

Slidin240Wayz · 07-09-2007, 09:26 AM

I just drove around in the GR+ in a S14 on Friday. The ride took the bumps alot kinder than the Megan's. They seem very comfortable for daily driving. I just need to test them out on the track.

Carlos

Edgar · 07-09-2007, 10:01 AM

Ive heard nothing but good things about STANCE.

I was too looking at the diffrence and ill have to agree with everything D*Star said.

What spring rates are all offered?

Dousan_PG · 07-09-2007, 10:12 AM

i run 9/7kg on the s13
i wouldnt say they are BOUNCY
more like stiff

bouncy would be like blown shocks, imo

stiff is like when u hit a bump, u know it

stiff for sure
bouncy, no way

ive never had any complaints from passengers on the track or off.

DOOK · 07-09-2007, 10:23 AM

IIRC the gr+ and the +pro both come with 2 sets of springs, they come with 8/6 installed and 9/7 extra.

Slidin240Wayz · 07-09-2007, 10:26 AM

and from a reliable source I was told that they are made for the 9/7 setup and they just install them with the 8/6 for comfort.

Bushido · 07-09-2007, 11:09 AM

Does anyone know what the HIGHEST offset is on a 9.5 in. wheel you can fit on to the front of a S13 with Stances before you hit the coilover?
I'm pretty sure that 9.5 +15 will clear... but not positive.
anyone running similar sized wheels with these coils?

backwoods · 07-09-2007, 11:13 AM

I talked to several people this weekend about my setup. They all agreed with me that Stance GR+ Pro is the route to go.

pbcstylez · 07-09-2007, 11:24 AM

on s14, i can go +17 in fronts w/o rubbing maybe a couple mm before hittin the coils with a 225/40/18 tire

Nackers · 07-09-2007, 12:21 PM

Yes that is a recent picture of D*star's car.

I have Stance GR+ on my vert. They are not bouncy at all. Very very stiff. The only bounce I get is from my 205/55/16's @33psi. I parked the car and was pushing on the fenders and realized my suspension wasn't even compressing, it was all the tire.

BTW, I have 9/7 setup with 9 stiffness all round.

And a little jewel I can't help but post

^^^ D*star violating my vert ^^^

Kaotik25 · 07-09-2007, 12:31 PM

sorry for going off topic, but the red hatch above is sexy...btw what size wheels are you running on?

okie back to topic. I'm running GR+ Pro with 9/7 and mild stiffness (around 7 clicks) and they are nice. On the street, you will feel the bumps. As for spirited driving, I LOVE MY STANCES.

07-08-2007, 09:18 PM	#1
drftwerks Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 2,343 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	stance coils what is the advantage of the +pro over the reg GR??? as far as i can tell, just the helper spring. does it help when your drop the car super low?? or not really? thanks Bryon __________________ giantroboteyes.wordpress.com/

07-08-2007, 09:41 PM	#2
Full-Lock Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ILLinois Posts: 1,765 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Full-Lock Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i think you get a few different sets of springs with it __________________

07-08-2007, 09:53 PM	#4
nissandr1ft Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Clayton, NC Age: 41 Posts: 284 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	helper springs, and poly bushings on the lower shell casings...I think. I ended up going with the GR+ since I went with Z32 shell casings. I personally don't see much advantage besides maybe a tad softer ride daily with the helper springs. __________________ ------------------------- www.carolinanissans.com -------------------------

07-08-2007, 10:19 PM	#5
d*star180 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicago Age: 37 Posts: 468 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I have GR+pros, my friend has GR+, were both slammed as fuck, i cant feel a difference at all. Then again im no D1 driver. __________________ IG: DARKSQUADNIGHTMARE DARK*SQUAD. SINCE 2005.

07-08-2007, 10:26 PM	#6
drftwerks Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 2,343 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^^ something usefull, nice, done __________________ giantroboteyes.wordpress.com/

07-08-2007, 09:44 PM	#3
s14_rob Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: IL Posts: 446 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i got with my s14 gr+pros a set of 8k/6k and 9k/7k and the rears have helper springs

07-08-2007, 11:23 PM	#7
Jung918 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CA Posts: 3,203 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Do you guys with the stances feel it being pretty bouncy? __________________ Sale: Hello Kitty Horn Button S14 Rear Valences K.Y. Gordon the Thief (Tony Chen)

07-08-2007, 11:34 PM	#8
d*star180 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicago Age: 37 Posts: 468 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I have the 9/7 springs on, and it is pretty bouncy in comparison to stock or spring/strut combo, but not as bad as most other coilovers. Ive ridden in Silkroad,megan, and Kts for S chassis. All were bouncier than Stance, Megan was crazy bouncy. I once rode in an Evo with Endless Super Functions, now that, was alot of a nicer ride than my stance. __________________ IG: DARKSQUADNIGHTMARE DARK*SQUAD. SINCE 2005.

07-09-2007, 12:53 AM	#9
articdragon192 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West covina Age: 39 Posts: 6,792 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	You mean Zeals? Zeals ride real nice. __________________ Need help? Click here Still stumped? Try this Can't find what you're looking for? Here you go.

07-09-2007, 01:59 AM	#10
J-Style Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: St. Helena, CA (707) Age: 35 Posts: 609 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I can't wait till I get my Stance Basics, is that a recent picture of your car d*star180?

07-09-2007, 03:35 AM	#11
viscid240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Only where the cactus strikes! Age: 42 Posts: 516 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have gr+ in my girls s14 and slammed to shit also about 1/2in of the cat to touch the ground and they still can go lower. This is of course on steelies will be a tad bit higher by the end of the week when we throw her rims on. I put the 9/7 combo on and have the F/R settings at 9 stiffness. It is bouncy but not annoying or uncomfortable in any way. Keep in mind it's my girls ride and she loves it and says the ride does not bother her one bit, at the rate or settings.

07-09-2007, 08:51 AM	#13
cgguy Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 130 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	When I spoke with the Stance techs a while back he mentioned that the GR+ and the Pros were exactly the same appart from the helper spring and lower bushing. The dampers used are the same ones in both models....It's the Basics that give you a smaller diameter/differently valved shock. So even if you bought the GR+ you could "convert" them to Pros by adding the helper spring at a later time. Stance will sell you any individual parts you'll ever need including whatever spring rates your heart desires. I say save your money and go with the GR+ ps. Anything Zeal is going to cost you more than twice what the Stance will.

07-09-2007, 08:58 AM	#19
EDacIouSX Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles Age: 39 Posts: 4,566 Trader Rating: (53) Rides Gallery: EDacIouSX Feedback Score: 53 reviews	My friend had zeals on his s14, second from best whichever those are. Spring rates were 10/8 on lowest setting of 1. I believe front and rear were 6 way adjustable. And let me say this about them. FUCKING BOUNCEY! but they were track only coilovers. zeals is same company as endless

07-09-2007, 09:20 AM	#20
brainfood Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Eagle Rock, CA Age: 42 Posts: 2,957 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	I like my stance gr+ coilovers. I run 8k front and 7k rear. I have the helper springs on the rear. They allow you to adjust droop travel other than that I they shouldnt make a difference in ride since they will be compressed anytime there is weight on the coilover. __________________ Bryan Rogers http://www.seriousbadass.com

07-09-2007, 09:26 AM	#21
Slidin240Wayz Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Everywhere Age: 40 Posts: 5,427 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I just drove around in the GR+ in a S14 on Friday. The ride took the bumps alot kinder than the Megan's. They seem very comfortable for daily driving. I just need to test them out on the track. Carlos __________________ Support Zilvia by purchasing a sticker!

07-09-2007, 10:01 AM	#22
Edgar Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Indianapolis,IN Posts: 4,980 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Ive heard nothing but good things about STANCE. I was too looking at the diffrence and ill have to agree with everything DStar said. What spring rates are all offered? __________________ Drift Indy*

07-09-2007, 10:12 AM	#23
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	i run 9/7kg on the s13 i wouldnt say they are BOUNCY more like stiff bouncy would be like blown shocks, imo stiff is like when u hit a bump, u know it stiff for sure bouncy, no way ive never had any complaints from passengers on the track or off. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-09-2007, 10:23 AM	#24
DOOK Post Whore! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Land of Milk and Cookies Age: 42 Posts: 7,552 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	IIRC the gr+ and the +pro both come with 2 sets of springs, they come with 8/6 installed and 9/7 extra. __________________ <------ Grumpy Old Asshole MY REVIEW THREAD: Ltdnismoracer4=DOOK http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...ltdnismoracer4

07-09-2007, 10:26 AM	#25
Slidin240Wayz Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Everywhere Age: 40 Posts: 5,427 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	and from a reliable source I was told that they are made for the 9/7 setup and they just install them with the 8/6 for comfort. __________________ Support Zilvia by purchasing a sticker!

07-09-2007, 11:09 AM	#26
Bushido Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: SFL Posts: 3,563 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Does anyone know what the HIGHEST offset is on a 9.5 in. wheel you can fit on to the front of a S13 with Stances before you hit the coilover? I'm pretty sure that 9.5 +15 will clear... but not positive. anyone running similar sized wheels with these coils? __________________

07-09-2007, 11:13 AM	#27
backwoods Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Under The Rainbow Bridge Age: 39 Posts: 156 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I talked to several people this weekend about my setup. They all agreed with me that Stance GR+ Pro is the route to go.

07-09-2007, 11:24 AM	#28
pbcstylez Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2005 Location: East Bay Age: 40 Posts: 2,110 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	on s14, i can go +17 in fronts w/o rubbing maybe a couple mm before hittin the coils with a 225/40/18 tire __________________ parking lot pimpin... Seller Feedback here: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...ight=pbcstylez

07-09-2007, 12:21 PM	#29
Nackers Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rockford, IL Age: 40 Posts: 74 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yes that is a recent picture of Dstar's car. I have Stance GR+ on my vert. They are not bouncy at all. Very very stiff. The only bounce I get is from my 205/55/16's @33psi. I parked the car and was pushing on the fenders and realized my suspension wasn't even compressing, it was all the tire. BTW, I have 9/7 setup with 9 stiffness all round. And a little jewel I can't help but post ^^^ Dstar violating my vert ^^^ __________________ nackers.picturepush.com/

07-09-2007, 12:31 PM	#30
Kaotik25 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SoCal Age: 40 Posts: 332 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sorry for going off topic, but the red hatch above is sexy...btw what size wheels are you running on? okie back to topic. I'm running GR+ Pro with 9/7 and mild stiffness (around 7 clicks) and they are nice. On the street, you will feel the bumps. As for spirited driving, I LOVE MY STANCES.