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mkiv98 · 10-03-2008, 04:09 PM

So after putting coilovers on, I notice that there is a ton of slack in my steering (there always has been, it's just more noticeable now). In other words, there's very slow response and I can move the wheel around without moving the car.

What is the best way to correct this problem?

Any help would be appreciated.

kuruptR · 10-03-2008, 04:12 PM

Usually starts with changing tires/wheels. Theres a rubber bushing replacement from Circuit sports that will replace it with a full aluminum piece. Getting harder steering rack bushings, from energy or megan.

mkiv98 · 10-03-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kuruptR

Usually starts with changing tires/wheels. Theres a rubber bushing replacement from Circuit sports that will replace it with a full aluminum piece. Getting harder steering rack bushings, from energy or megan.

would i need to change the entire steering rack itself?

i want this steering to feel like an s2k

Bushido · 10-03-2008, 05:56 PM

Yanack solid steering rack bushings

Circuit Sports solid column bushing

SPL Pro outer tie rod ends

OEM Z33/32 inner's

If you got the money and depending how bad your rack is, replace it with a rebuilt Hicas unit.

chrisa · 10-03-2008, 06:17 PM

i have a hicas rack and rack bushing...the bushings stiffen the steering up and the rack makes it more responsive because it has a quicker ratio over stock. still wont feel like an S2K though but a BIG improvement over stock.

SochBAT · 10-03-2008, 06:23 PM

^^^ for the Win!

The Hicas rack can be swapped over with nothing else. Add the steering bushing and solid rear suspension and you'll be a snappy king!

cdlong · 10-03-2008, 10:28 PM

also, what's your alignment? i noticed big changes in steering feel with different toe settings.

it's never going to feel like an S2K, one's a new $35K sposts car and one is a '90 cheap sports coupe.

SoguRacing · 10-04-2008, 12:50 AM

I'm not sure if our racks have them but you might want to adjust the worm gear preload.

junn · 10-04-2008, 12:53 AM

i had a similar problem and i got my rack re built.....felt way better!!!....

SoguRacing · 10-04-2008, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by junn

i had a similar problem and i got my rack re built.....felt way better!!!....

how much was it to have it rebuilt?

xdumbxguyx · 10-05-2008, 03:32 AM

get an alignment it will probably feel better
because of the contact patch on the floor with a more negative camber
and toe

***S14DB*** · 10-05-2008, 04:03 AM

Rack Bushings are like foam rubber. Get some Urethane ones and it makes a world of difference.

derek_s13 · 10-05-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SoguRacing

how much was it to have it rebuilt?

second this. what's the dealioio? i don't feel like rebuilding one myself. pain in the dickhole.

The ROMAN · 10-05-2008, 11:51 AM

Also check to make sure the joint on the rack that bolts to your steering column isn't coming loose. Mine started to once and it made the steering feel like what you're saying.

Bigsyke · 10-05-2008, 12:23 PM

The steering wheel is directly connected to the tie rods. The bushings keep the rack steady for more stability. Its the ratio which counts.
check your ball joints.

Dousan_PG · 10-05-2008, 12:33 PM

get an alignment first
thats your real problem.

go from there.

silnismo · 10-05-2008, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bushido

Yanack solid steering rack bushings

Circuit Sports solid column bushing

SPL Pro outer tie rod ends

OEM Z33/32 inner's

If you got the money and depending how bad your rack is, replace it with a rebuilt Hicas unit.

^^your solution

Dousan_PG · 10-05-2008, 12:44 PM

yanacks are ok
mine got all loosey goosey after the past 2 years
thinking get new ones..or probably just rubber ones
one side of my yanack is warped and doesnt hold the rack anymore

its aluminum

should have had it made w/ a stronger material, imo

Bigsyke · 10-05-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

get an alignment first
thats your real problem.

go from there.

An alignment wont help. If there is play in the steering wheel its either the FLCA ball joints shifting around or the tie rod ends shifting around on the spindle. Everything else is directly connected, unless his tires are sloshing around.

Dousan_PG · 10-05-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsyke

An alignment wont help. If there is play in the steering wheel its either the FLCA ball joints shifting around or the tie rod ends shifting around on the spindle. Everything else is directly connected, unless his tires are sloshing around.

no
toe will make your car feel slooppy and handle like shit
if it happend AFTER he did his coilover change over (as it sounds like it is)
and he HASNT gotten an aligmnet yet

get alignment and go from there.

go re-read his post

10-03-2008, 04:09 PM	#1
mkiv98 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Berkeley Age: 37 Posts: 378 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	tightening up steering So after putting coilovers on, I notice that there is a ton of slack in my steering (there always has been, it's just more noticeable now). In other words, there's very slow response and I can move the wheel around without moving the car. What is the best way to correct this problem? Any help would be appreciated.

10-03-2008, 05:56 PM	#4
Bushido Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: SFL Posts: 3,563 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Yanack solid steering rack bushings Circuit Sports solid column bushing SPL Pro outer tie rod ends OEM Z33/32 inner's If you got the money and depending how bad your rack is, replace it with a rebuilt Hicas unit. __________________

10-03-2008, 10:28 PM	#7
cdlong Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Age: 44 Posts: 1,865 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: cdlong Feedback Score: 0 reviews	also, what's your alignment? i noticed big changes in steering feel with different toe settings. it's never going to feel like an S2K, one's a new $35K sposts car and one is a '90 cheap sports coupe. __________________

10-04-2008, 12:50 AM	#8
SoguRacing Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: (714) Age: 39 Posts: 2,967 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: SoguRacing Feedback Score: 23 reviews	I'm not sure if our racks have them but you might want to adjust the worm gear preload. __________________ Pre Tune Checkup! Compression,LeakDown,Vacuum Test $80. Cams Install: $180

10-05-2008, 04:03 AM	#12
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Rack Bushings are like foam rubber. Get some Urethane ones and it makes a world of difference. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

10-03-2008, 04:12 PM	#2
kuruptR Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UpNorth Posts: 1,046 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Usually starts with changing tires/wheels. Theres a rubber bushing replacement from Circuit sports that will replace it with a full aluminum piece. Getting harder steering rack bushings, from energy or megan.

10-03-2008, 06:17 PM	#5
chrisa BANNED Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: san pedro Age: 39 Posts: 690 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	i have a hicas rack and rack bushing...the bushings stiffen the steering up and the rack makes it more responsive because it has a quicker ratio over stock. still wont feel like an S2K though but a BIG improvement over stock.

10-03-2008, 06:23 PM	#6
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 39 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	^^^ for the Win! The Hicas rack can be swapped over with nothing else. Add the steering bushing and solid rear suspension and you'll be a snappy king!

10-04-2008, 12:53 AM	#9
junn Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: lynwood/cpt Posts: 777 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	i had a similar problem and i got my rack re built.....felt way better!!!....

10-05-2008, 03:32 AM	#11
xdumbxguyx Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 626 Posts: 1,189 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	get an alignment it will probably feel better because of the contact patch on the floor with a more negative camber and toe

10-05-2008, 11:51 AM	#14
The ROMAN Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NJ Age: 42 Posts: 730 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Also check to make sure the joint on the rack that bolts to your steering column isn't coming loose. Mine started to once and it made the steering feel like what you're saying.

10-05-2008, 12:23 PM	#15
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 40 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The steering wheel is directly connected to the tie rods. The bushings keep the rack steady for more stability. Its the ratio which counts. check your ball joints.

10-05-2008, 12:33 PM	#16
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	get an alignment first thats your real problem. go from there. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

10-05-2008, 12:44 PM	#18
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	yanacks are ok mine got all loosey goosey after the past 2 years thinking get new ones..or probably just rubber ones one side of my yanack is warped and doesnt hold the rack anymore its aluminum should have had it made w/ a stronger material, imo __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira