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Old 02-26-2015, 10:38 AM   #31
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Recently I blew my KA, Sunday to be exact being a midnight highway wangan warrior

My Ka was stock aside from:

OBX header
ISIS egr delete plate
Koyo Rad
ISIS E Fans and Shroud
ARP head Studs

The reason why i picked an S13 Blacktop were because:

-Im a very simple guy, and thats what SRs are simple beautiful reliable engines (plus they sound good too)
-I was strapped for cash somewhat thats why i opted for a S13 and not a S14 SR
-Nobody in my area has KAs on deck

Now currently I'm in the middle of the swap so right now the parts are coming in, so far I got:

Nismo tranny mounts (mines broke)
DIF turbo lines
HKS SSQV BOV
PBM inlet pipe
Aeromotive FPR
Walbro fuel pump
Freddy Oil pan
ISIS elbow
ebay downpipe
CX racing FMIC
SPEC stage 1 clutch kit
OEM pilot bearing
OEM oil pick up and gasket


(Please let me know if I am missing anything critical)

But yeah, Im kind of mad that I couldn't take time with this one because my s14 is my DD so I need it back asap and I wanted to do it right by getting top shelf shit but hey, shit happens, I plan to replace the knock offs soon, and the replace the oil pump for peace of mind.


But overall I picked an SR because of overall reliability, simplicity of the swap, and the sounds they can make...sex.

Lets see how this SR lifestyle is.
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I basically went the sr route because I paid nothing for it. I bought it with a power FC d Jetro with commander for $90" and 2 trannys. Sold the power FC for $850 and here I am. Motor supposedly has forged internals and had a stage 3 clutch with 550cc inj and a full race manifold. I think I did pretty good

I really wanted to do an rb and wen my sr decides to die or next winter comes I may go rb25. But I have so many sr parts I'm not really sure which route. It'd be easy to just pick up another sr so I don't know...


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SR cause i wanted it to be closer to JDM version of the car.
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I went the SR route back in 2011 because of the simple nature of the swap. It was a super fun motor with a punchy torque curve. Sold the car that same year because life hit me with a couple kids. Well I'm back in the game and I just may do another one... Man I miss that motor.....

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If I can ask this question:

What are your experiences with the reliablity of the SR for DDin, midnight highway runs, and possible light track duty (with proper prep of course)?

Basic stock SR w/normal bolt-ons.
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If I can ask this question:

What are your experiences with the reliablity of the SR for DDin, midnight highway runs, and possible light track duty (with proper prep of course)?

Basic stock SR w/normal bolt-ons.
Put somewhere around 30,000 plus miles on mine daily driving it for two years, multiple track days, and multiple 4+ hour drives every now and then. Just did the usual basic maintenance. That same motor now has a gt2860rs, 550 injectors, power fc and makes 280 and gets the shit beat out of it even more. Still willing to drive it 4+ hours to a drift event, drift all day, then drive back.

I very much enjoy my s13 sr.
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Start looking for a new turbo set up. If they haven't already the twins will eventually start shitting oil for you. Mine lasted about a year. If I could do it again I would have done the next model up VVTI 2j and driven that shit for daaayz.
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Better head design IMO (where's my rocker?)
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But yeah, That's a bug drawback to an sr

When I bought my car it had an sr, and I enjoyed the engine. Coming from a family where no one was into cars, I had to teach my self everything, so when my first sr blew ( afte 3 years of no problems) I decided to stick with the sr.

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^^that, and because when I removed the blow engine, I completely took it apart and taught myself as much as I could with the engine, and I felt comfortable with it.

If I could go back maybe, just maybe I'd do a 1J swap for the sound but I'm extremely happy with the sr. Power is good, parts are easy to find now-a-days, there's like infinite threads about it, so troubleshooting is not so difficult.
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My KA-T sounded so sick from inside the car but the first time I heard it from outside I was pretty disappointed. KA's just always sound like they're on their last leg haha.
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I have had a number of SR/RB/VQ powered vehicles, but I went the ~750hp stroked/sleeved SR with a VE head direction for a few reasons. I had already bought it before I switched chassis and it's easier to work on with the engine in the car vs. a V style engine. V style engines just take up so much room and make it tough to deal with certain repairs/maintenance work at the track. Don't get me wrong, I love almost every engine, but that's my opinion. I didn't go rb because it's an incredibly heavy engine and I'm building a time attack car. I sometimes do wish I went 2j, but that's always an option for the future. The VE head really does solve one of the biggest issues with the SR engine (rockers) and makes it an insanely potent engine. The last reason I went SR with VE head, is because two of the three podium cars at World Time Attack were running SR20VE engines. Eventually I would like to try out the other engine platforms that I haven't had the opportunity to try yet.
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Picked for more out of the box power, and I wanted to stay 4 cyl turbo. Can't justify going Ka-t because if done properly, it costs way too much than I'd care to spend on any 4cyl turbo. VTC changed my life, never going back to s13 sr.

If I did decide to get rid of the s15 SR, I would be going LS.
What's the difference between SR with VTC vs without? I mean feel wise.
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first path was ka-t. Why swap a 4 banger for another 4 banger? Also, in order to make a sr20 worth a damn, you have to buy all the same shit that you would need to make a ka-t anyways. The ka-t would yield more power. KA is just a for sure win in that case if you ask me. Then when I actually got a career, I decided to go rb25. Inline 6, whats not to love. Then the GTR speaks for itself. I just like to look at it now as the 240 is the single turbo inline 6 and the GTR will be the twin turbo inline 6. Although I do plan on importing a kouki 180sx, so I guess i'll see what the sr20 thing is all about then
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Put somewhere around 30,000 plus miles on mine daily driving it for two years, multiple track days, and multiple 4+ hour drives every now and then. Just did the usual basic maintenance. That same motor now has a gt2860rs, 550 injectors, power fc and makes 280 and gets the shit beat out of it even more. Still willing to drive it 4+ hours to a drift event, drift all day, then drive back.

I very much enjoy my s13 sr.
That puts me at ease now, had to postpone the suspension overhaul gotta get my baby back lol
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I went sr for a few reasons. They are easy and cheaper to work on, make good power, reliable if done right, and they are lighter than all other options, so the car has better weight distribution. I daily drive my car, go to drift and drag events, beat her up, then drive back home. No reason to run anything else.
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Went sr because I always wanted to lol. Almost went ka-t but ended up getting my sr with trans for about what I paid for my low mileage spare ka that I had bought.



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Basic stock SR w/normal bolt-ons.


Its been running strong for 6 yrs and 55k miles later (knock on wood). It was my DD for a while. I have basic bolt-ons and a t28 on mines. Gonna do cams and a hg in a few weeks with a few supporting mods and hope for the best and a bit more power lol.
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Start looking for a new turbo set up. If they haven't already the twins will eventually start shitting oil for you. Mine lasted about a year. If I could do it again I would have done the next model up VVTI 2j and driven that shit for daaayz.
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I came from a stock KA to a KA-T and was a firm believer but kept having problems blowing turbos for some reason so after college I swapped in an S14 SR20. It's the best thing i've done to my s14 so far, race proven engine, sounds nice, rev's quicker and higher, looks better, and just plain badass. Love driving my car 10x more with the SR period. I also might say that its ironic i ended up with the SR, my screenname is now legit 13 years later.... haha
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I went sr for a few reasons. They are easy and cheaper to work on, make good power, reliable if done right, and they are lighter than all other options, so the car has better weight distribution. I daily drive my car, go to drift and drag events, beat her up, then drive back home. No reason to run anything else.
For the past 8 years driving only S-chassis cars, to me its SR20det all the way, Love LS, RB, JZ motors too but honestly, depends on what you want to do and your budget. For me Its all about feel, drivability, fun, and reliability.
You can get A/C in your SR20, I've done it three times with three of my S14s.

Key point is having access to a good tuner to tune the motor right. A bad tuner will definitely cause you headache... SR20 are just as reliable as any motor and easy to work on. They fit right, and look right in the car, probably because its meant to be there.

Plus if you watch all the Drift muscle or Japan drifters like Nakamura or Yokoi, they drive with SR20 and just tune it, upgrade the turbo, and modify accordingly, which honestly isn't too expensive compared to other motors. I went with the Tomei ARMS 8270 + bolt ons and etc.. all on stock bottom end and its super fun to drive. Im no pro level drifter or racer, but I think the SR20 itself is a great motor to play for a daily, weekend warrior/track car.

never had any serious issues with any of my Sr20s, I did my best to keep the motors in good shape by doing regular maintenance and getting it properly tuned for reliability, to this day I still keep in contact with my local tuner and bring the car in for a retune if any serious modifying is done. Do your homework as well!
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I came from a stock KA to a KA-T and was a firm believer but kept having problems blowing turbos for some reason so after college I swapped in an S14 SR20. It's the best thing i've done to my s14 so far, race proven engine, sounds nice, rev's quicker and higher, looks better, and just plain badass. Love driving my car 10x more with the SR period. I also might say that its ironic i ended up with the SR, my screenname is now legit 13 years later.... haha
Did you feel a difference in the car's handling with the front end being lighter? I've heard the SR is a good 50lbs lighter than the KA.
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TONS of maintenance while I had it out.

Hated my first ka-de car, went s13 sr at first.


Blew up my s13 SR at lime rock (I put 2 bad ones together to make a running one) but it had a brand new s15 turbo on it, a good clutch, etc etc.
I had a hell of a time finding a reliable s13 sr long block, so I called around and asked a few importers what they had. One of them had an s15 sr without a trans or turbo, so I jumped on it. I will never go back to s13 sr or ka.

I would not consider going ka-t, because I can get s14/s15 sr20's for far cheaper, install/run one with far less hassle, far less money and headache. I can also hit a reliable 300 whp with very little effort.

If I were to replace my s15 sr, I would put in another s14/15 sr. I use it to go to work, get groceries, bring the dog to the park, road racing, drifting, apartment hunting etc. I want to try my hand at a hill climb this season (street prepared class with hill-climb.org). This is my personal street car, I don't feel the need to go nuts building it. Just reliability/drivability upgrades and lots of preventative maintenance. The VTC allows for very good street manners. I don't have to rev the piss out of it to get around town, has excellent throttle response and a fat, useable power band.




If I decided to try and compete again, would look at a more modern chassis (i.e. z33, maybe an e46) to build into my LS powered competition car.
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Did you feel a difference in the car's handling with the front end being lighter? I've heard the SR is a good 50lbs lighter than the KA.
Honestly, I do feel a difference in maneuverability with the sr20det coupled with a lighter battery as well. If anything it made my car more neutral which is exactly what i wanted. I can't even imagine sticking an rb into my s14 that shit would throw off the balance a lot i bet. Hence why not a lot of time attack silvia's use rb/jz series motors it takes it toll on weight after while i'm sure. But I guess everyone has their own driving style and preferences.
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I went VQ cause......
It weighs less than a ka....
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I went LS1, it was the only way to obtain infinite love from the local mullets...

No weak spots over the entire power band, no comparison to the other options. Drive a 240 with a 450whp SR and then drive a 240 with a 450whp LSX and you'll be hooked...
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First VQ in this thread. How much power does it put down?
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I've had s14 sr20det powered s14...s13 sr20 and RB20 powered s13s. Debated for a long time for my current car. I started leaning towards ls2 with t56...ended up going with r33 rb26dett...because sound, no crank collar issue, stock bottom end will easily and reliably handle 550+ hp, minimal upgrades needed to reach 500hp, r154 is shit trans (debated on 2j for a while), and because... godzilla. Going to keep this car forever and I've always wanted a rb26.
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My budget is 5k or less, so the only reliable 2-day drop-in option is sr20

If I had 15k-20k choose 2jz/lsx turbo automatic with emphasis on the lsx turbo auto for a daily 11 second street car with A/C and 26mpg~ without having to manually shift (there is alot of traffic in miami, almost every day I am sitting still on a highway somewhere).

Its not about what we "want" everybody "wants" a V12 quad turbo under their hood and a huge diesel powered truck to tow it with.

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I went sr for a few reasons. They are easy and cheaper to work on, make good power, reliable if done right, and they are lighter than all other options, so the car has better weight distribution. I daily drive my car, go to drift and drag events, beat her up, then drive back home. No reason to run anything else.
exactly I can fling the car around every corner easily, it looks really dangerous if you are watching but from inside the car its like the opera is going and you just feel like you are floating, people will ask you if you drift, I usually say "I dont really try to but she does anyways" :stars:

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All electric.
400hp & 600ft lbs.
LS tranny.

Can't take any more of the poison from gasoline. And can't afford the cost of gas when getting 5mpg

And I have no interested in knowing what a smog station is anymore.


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All electric.
400hp & 600ft lbs.
LS tranny.

Can't take any more of the poison from gasoline. And can't afford the cost of gas when getting 5mpg

And I have no interested in knowing what a smog station is anymore.

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pls put a vroombox in this car
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If I had 15k-20k choose 2jz/lsx turbo automatic with emphasis on the lsx turbo auto for a daily 11 second street car with A/C and 26mpg~ without having to manually shift (there is alot of traffic in miami, almost every day I am sitting still on a highway somewhere).
A turbo LSX and only 11's? Why waste the money and go through the trouble? I/C/E and a tune would net 11's in an S-chassis.
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