Drift entrance techniques/form

[pacotaco345]

Originally Posted by KA240SX808

There's no doubt it can't be done. But I assure you our N/A KA angles are much shallower than that of a Stock SR.
Which I mean we all know but just throwing that out there.

I'm gonna see how far I can push my KA with knuckles until its not enough.
What kind of tires do you use in the back?
Last time I had 225 DZ101's and they seemed a bit grippy for my liking as far as sliding goes.

I have no idea what tires I had on the back for that event, two different brand used ones that my friend let me use. Usually I just run whatever the cheapest new tire I can find online is for the back; and I *prefer* to run 215/40/17 when I can. It tends to be the best balance of my ka being able to spin them and enough grip to keep me from spinning when I transition.

[K_style]

Little video of Evergreen speedway Open drift. (3/8 track layout)
It was 3rd event attending @ Evergreen and hop to sharp up the line to compete in Grassroots this year.

3rd gear initiation to 2nd gear transition.



Does anybody else have an experience with Evergreen?

[JohnnyDrfiter22]

K Style I dont think iv ever tried or noticed anyone keep flicking the wheel back on forth like you did on that first corner...

[dema]

Good info good to know

[cchondro]

You should have shifted to 3rd for the last turn
Could have carried you through alot farther

great video though

[K_style]

Originally Posted by JohnnyDrfiter22

K Style I dont think iv ever tried or noticed anyone keep flicking the wheel back on forth like you did on that first corner...

I need to work on smooth steering control on the bank... Well I am going to another open drift this weekend and hope there is some more improvement.

Originally Posted by cchondro

You should have shifted to 3rd for the last turn
Could have carried you through alot farther
great video though

I could, but there is an end line where we are not allow to drift after the last turn. So really no point going all crazy on last turn.

[cchondro]

didnt know that,
disregard my statement

[di-devol]

Originally Posted by K_style

Little video of Evergreen speedway Open drift. (3/8 track layout)
It was 3rd event attending @ Evergreen and hop to sharp up the line to compete in Grassroots this year.

3rd gear initiation to 2nd gear transition.

Does anybody else have an experience with Evergreen?

You look fine to me. Not much you could do except for what you already know. Gotta watch the hard corrections and smooth it out a bit. ....and get closer to the wall! That's it really, your transitions look good to me as well.

[K_style]

Originally Posted by di-devol

You look fine to me. Not much you could do except for what you already know. Gotta watch the hard corrections and smooth it out a bit. ....and get closer to the wall! That's it really, your transitions look good to me as well.

I was being chicken to get too close to the walls hahaha..

There were some runs that I was pretty close to the wall though..

[e5s4y]

Originally Posted by e5s4y

anyone here running the rear ebrake leverage extenders like the ones from gktech? I just ordered a set and will be installing them sometime next weekend.
for anyone with them, how do you feel about them?

for anyone who cares, these things worked awesome at the event i was just at. It feels like they wont lock up for shit bc of the long throw in the handle now and how easy it moves, but they did EVERY time.

[whyteboi]

Looking for some help deciding on suspension set-up. Last year I ran 0 camber and 0 toe all around. I was thinking of adding some camber in front to help with positive camber gain but I'm not sure where to start. I don't want to add too much and get a whole bunch of under-steer on turn in. Any help is appreciated.

[KA240SX808]

If anything your getting understeer from 0 Camber.
I would start off with -2* Front and -1* Rear.
Toe can stay 0.

[DialedLife]

I'm having trouble. I get a lot of understeer. What is the cure for this? Car is an all stock 93 base with 2" lowering springs. tires: 40lbf, 50lb r

edit: I did a little reading, and from what i've learned my front tires are too blame. 195/60/15 are just too flexy?

[One_love_silvia]

Originally Posted by DialedLife

I'm having trouble. I get a lot of understeer. What is the cure for this? Car is an all stock 93 base with 2" lowering springs. tires: 40lbf, 50lb r

edit: I did a little reading, and from what i've learned my front tires are too blame. 195/60/15 are just too flexy?

Get a locking diff. Only way to.

[DialedLife]

Knew i was forgetting something! Its welded.

[cchondro]

195/60 is a whole lot of sidewall. That sucker is surely flexing.

[KA240SX808]

The real question is what kind of tires are on the front?
Also alignment makes a diff in that too.

[DialedLife]

The tires are good year. LS i think? I don't know exactly. I do know they're old tires. The car was sitting for a few years.

My alignment was off, it pulled to the right. Never bothered with it because I don't have a lot of spare money.

Well last night, I bent the left tierod pretty bad. I thought that was strange because I've never hit anything at all.

Here's a video of us messing around last night.
Jdm jonny pdx drifing! - YouTube

[KA240SX808]

You don't have spare cash but your drifting?

You don't have to hit anything, it was probably slightly bent to begin with and you just finished it off.

[bataangpinoy]

well since you're in there, now would be a good time to upgrade your tie rods

[DialedLife]

KA240 - Thats what I was thinking. And yes, not the best idea I know, but it's not my only car so it's not too big of a deal.

bataang - totally my thoughts, but I ended up with a new OEM one for $18 that will have to do for now

[badass8]

So last night It was pretty wet out so I figured I would take the 240sx out to learn to drift a little. *note* I am really new and just getting into drifting. In other words the 240sx is only on lower springs, open diff sadly, and has a stock ka24de.

I was doing well but i could only initiate the drift(power slide) by clutch kicking and I would get too excited/nervous and keep my foot on the gas.. and due to the help of the open diff -___- it would fling the car back around and that eventually made me run over a curb. thank god there was little to no damage if anything just the front bumper.

What I am asking is a little advice. I plan to purchase all new rotors/pads because my e-brake doesn't lock up the rear tires yet even with an adjustment. I am also looking to purchase PBM competition coilovers, and I am getting my diff welded. Is there much more to it then that as a beginner drifter besides lots of tires/drift spares??

I am reading up all the time so please don't flame. Thank you.

I am researching everyday just thought I'd lay that out there for now.

[chiboy002]

Originally Posted by whyteboi

Looking for some help deciding on suspension set-up. Last year I ran 0 camber and 0 toe all around. I was thinking of adding some camber in front to help with positive camber gain but I'm not sure where to start. I don't want to add too much and get a whole bunch of under-steer on turn in. Any help is appreciated.

whats your caster?

[chiboy002]

Originally Posted by badass8

Is there much more to it then that as a beginner drifter besides lots of tires/drift spares??

if theres anything you should have found from your research, you'd know that starting off on the street is stupid.
lets say that curb did fuck your car up, well that would cost more than the ~100$ it costs for an event. plus you were probably only driving for no more than 2 hours, whereas an event you get like 8 hours.

go to an event.

you dont need coilovers to drift, i suggest learning without it first. get a proper seat instead.

your ebrake not locking might be because of your lines, they could be stretched. I'd look into that first, cause if your ebrake doesn't lock your brakes then slamming your pedal should only lock the front kinda.

you dont need lots of spares, slow it down dude. you aren't roasting tires if youre a beginner. focus more on your technique rather than preparing yourself for the act. get tires as you need them, and if you so need to get spares then get something cheap like oem wheels for now.

many people on here have drifted ka respectably, so don't give up with that either.

lastly, learning with an open diff is better than learning with a welded

[badass8]

Originally Posted by chiboy002

if theres anything you should have found from your research, you'd know that starting off on the street is stupid.
lets say that curb did fuck your car up, well that would cost more than the ~100$ it costs for an event. plus you were probably only driving for no more than 2 hours, whereas an event you get like 8 hours.

go to an event.

you dont need coilovers to drift, i suggest learning without it first. get a proper seat instead.

your ebrake not locking might be because of your lines, they could be stretched. I'd look into that first, cause if your ebrake doesn't lock your brakes then slamming your pedal should only lock the front kinda.

you dont need lots of spares, slow it down dude. you aren't roasting tires if youre a beginner. focus more on your technique rather than preparing yourself for the act. get tires as you need them, and if you so need to get spares then get something cheap like oem wheels for now.

many people on here have drifted ka respectably, so don't give up with that either.

lastly, learning with an open diff is better than learning with a welded

Couldn't have said it any better. And you are totally right made me realize how stupid it was when I did it.

Yeah I was about to buy 4 steelies with tires for $50, figured I should grab them. I have signed up for a drift event for July 20th so I am definitely looking forward to that.

I am planning to go to Adam motorsports on a drift night and just do a ride along to see how it all goes then pay to try drifting there myself.
Thank you. I am just getting way ahead of myself.

[iamtheyi]

Originally Posted by badass8

Couldn't have said it any better. And you are totally right made me realize how stupid it was when I did it.

Yeah I was about to buy 4 steelies with tires for $50, figured I should grab them. I have signed up for a drift event for July 20th so I am definitely looking forward to that.

I am planning to go to Adam motorsports on a drift night and just do a ride along to see how it all goes then pay to try drifting there myself.
Thank you. I am just getting way ahead of myself.

Learning to drift on a Open is retarded. It is not fun.
Don't go to Adam's and save the money to go to Willow.

[KA240SX808]

Just because its not fun its retarded?
Teaches you to make the most of weight transfer and speed because without it you'll never keep and open sliding.

Some like it some don't.
All personal pref.
I felt starting/learning with it was better than a welded.

[SoCalDrifter]

I dont know if this is the right place or not but i was wondering what you guys run for alignment wise??

Right now i need a alignment i have about -2.5 up front and like -1.5 camber in the rear with a little toe out and in (front and back) usually when i go to do a alignment i do -2.5 to -2.7 up front with about .3 toe-out in the front and for the rear i set everything to 0....does that sound about right? or should i be putting some toe in for the rear and maybe alittle camber or no??... Also do you prefer 17'' wheels to 18'' wheels or is it not that much of a difference i have a full set of 17s and 18s i use for drifting but eventually i plan on selling all my wheels and getting 10 of the same wheels and always running the same tire size to keep it as consistant as possible but i dont know if i should go with 17x10 or 18x10 all the way around

If it matters its for my 14 making about 330whp

[whyteboi]

Originally Posted by SoCalDrifter

I dont know if this is the right place or not but i was wondering what you guys run for alignment wise??

Right now i need a alignment i have about -2.5 up front and like -1.5 camber in the rear with a little toe out and in (front and back) usually when i go to do a alignment i do -2.5 to -2.7 up front with about .3 toe-out in the front and for the rear i set everything to 0....does that sound about right? or should i be putting some toe in for the rear and maybe alittle camber or no??... Also do you prefer 17'' wheels to 18'' wheels or is it not that much of a difference i have a full set of 17s and 18s i use for drifting but eventually i plan on selling all my wheels and getting 10 of the same wheels and always running the same tire size to keep it as consistant as possible but i dont know if i should go with 17x10 or 18x10 all the way around

If it matters its for my 14 making about 330whp

As close to 0 camber in the rear will give you maximum tire contact. Help with grip, speed and be able to use all the tire up.

[SoCalDrifter]

Originally Posted by whyteboi

As close to 0 camber in the rear will give you maximum tire contact. Help with grip, speed and be able to use all the tire up.

ya thats what i figured.... ive been doing 0 everthing in the rear since i got all my arms