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Originally Posted by steve shadows

We shouldnt be silencing the obviously trite and ignorant.

By silencing everyone simply by disagreeing with politics concerns over our current foriegn policy we arent any better than Iran.

I don't know all the details on the Banning's but I have a feeling it was not for the sake of allowing a balanced display of points of views.

but then again its a private forum...so its their choice

Conspiracy theorize much?

Come on Steve, we're not Fox News and I'm not Bill O'Reilly. Nobody is going to shut you down because they don't agree with you.

Nobody got banned because of their views or opinions.

I'm actually getting irritated at this sort of cockamamie BS theorizing.

All users were banned for rule violations, not for differences of opinion.

Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier

I support the troops as individuals fighting to survive, but I don't see how they're protecting my freedom, and 99.8% of the rest of us here in the U.S.A.'s freedom. The only way our lives are in danger from what we've seen in the recent past is terrorism. Do you fear terrorism? If you do then doesn't that mean the war was lost? Oh no!

I also think it's funny how the attitude is all America!!, but the politics of this board have that totalitarian vibe.

I support the troops. I hope they live. But they signed up for it knowing what they'd be fighting for. I won't participate in a war to horde resources.

I'm sure you think you're a smart guy.

Clearly you can't read before you type though, because I've covered one of the points you've raised.

THE CONCEPT OF SUPPORTING TROOPS IS THAT IT'S DONE REGARDLESS OF THE SITUATION THEY'RE IN.

Not sure how I can spell that out any more clearly.

Now to address another issue you've raised - the concept of the servicemember's duty to protect freedom, etc.
That's the primary duty of a servicemember. That's the MAIN reason they've been enlisted (or commissioned).
Part of that job means you follow the orders given to you by those in your chain of command. The only time when it's permissible to disobey those orders is when they're clearly illegal orders (go kill that baby/go rape that woman, etc). Foreign policy decisions are not within the purview of any servicemember to question. While you may not agree with that, those are the rules we play by.

As far as why the war started and what America's goal was behind it - I can't say. I don't agree with the war (though it is nice to have Saddam out of power), and I want us out of that quagmire ASAP.

The reason this forum isn't a democracy is simple. This is a private forum. It's privately owned, and staffed by volunteers. If we allowed users to elect moderators, then the owner wouldn't have as much control over his property. Last time I checked, Best Buy wasn't keen on having customers pick their managers and employees.
Zilvia is free to use, but we still like to think of users as customers, with the goal of providing a good experience (product). In order to make that experience nice for all, we have rules established for users to abide by, and terms that they must agree with. Sometimes users fail to abide by these rules and are subject to administrative action.
Any business would do the same to anyone who cause their other customers to have a negative experience.

Your suggestion that Zilvia is a totalitarian state, or others' that it's a Nazi state, etc are just plain ignorant and immature.

We're not unreasonable here, we just have a low tolerance for BS.