The 2020 Presidential Race

[Future240]

Originally Posted by rvns14

Your fellow coworkers need to press mgmt to eat the cost, my org has lowered the employee contribution the last two year and the economy has been strong. Healthcare cost are again going to decline next year, your org is not sharing windfall from strong economic performance (not sure if you get a bonus based on employer profit) and offloading mgmt's contribution responsibility to the employer.
My org has been saving tons from WfH reducing travel expenses, we wouldnt be surprised to lower rates again next year.

Now they are. After the tax cuts hit, about 10 months later. They decided for the first time in the history of the company to allow parents to get 30 days paid leave.

Our health costs are still shit. I pay hundreds of dollars a month for my fam with a 3k deductible. That is the "low cost" plan. The high cost plan still has a 1k deductible.

[feito]

These idiots dont have a clue what they have been ordered to protest against. Real parasites of our society.

[S14rebuild]

That Trump speech last night was..AMAZING!

[SupaDoopa]

I wonder how many kids Biden slept next to last night?

[FaLKoN240]

Originally Posted by feito

These idiots dont have a clue what they have been ordered to protest against. Real parasites of our society.

Not his community. He literally left his city and state to defend a business that wasn't his.

[zombiewolf513]

Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

Not his community. He literally left his city and state to defend a business that wasn't his.

What happened to wanting open borders?

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

Not his community. He literally left his city and state to defend a business that wasn't his.

So americans are only suplose to protect whats theirs? So why are young men and women deployed around the world and even with in our borders to protect?

[FaLKoN240]

Originally Posted by zombiewolf513

What happened to wanting open borders?

Ask Mr. President.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...crime-n2569739

[zombiewolf513]

He wasnt inciting violence. He went to defend from violence. You said that yourself:

Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

Not his community. He literally left his city and state to defend a business that wasn't his.

Id also really love to hear your response to s14rebuild, because your quote could easily say this:

Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

Not his country. He literally left his city and state to defend a country that wasn't his.

[rvns14]

Kenosha's kid soldier isn't going to do time, he will be acquitted because they went for murder and not manslaughter. A republican super donor (Peter Thiel funded Terry Bollea's lawsuit against Gawker) or best, a lawyer funded by a consortium of gun companies will argue that he was engaged by a crowd and feared for his life/was striking back after being struck. You believe it is possible to find 12 people in Wisconsin who would send asuburbankid to prison for decades/life for murder?
He already lost though, cant be a police officer with a criminal record.

[zombiewolf513]

Hes done more work taking criminals and pedophiles off the streets for good than many cops do their whole career. Now he can focus his time on taking us to space.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

So americans are only suplose to protect whats theirs?

Yes.

Constitution of the US Section 8:
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;"

Note the verbiage: "provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States." I'm not really seeing how deposing dictators and increasing opium production in Afghanistan is contributing to our defense. I'm not really seeing how adding trillions to the national debt is contributing to our general welfare.

The armed forces are necessary and the act of joining for the nation's defense is laudable. The conflicts soldiers/sailors/airmen have fought in since WW2 have not been. Tens of thousands of young men and women have been killed not because the United States was defending itself from a clear threat but rather because the Congress has engaged in saber-rattling, "pre-emptive strikes," and general geopolitical meddling. A privileged ruling class of politicians sent an overwhelmingly poor and middle-class group of draftees and volunteers to fight unpopular and unnecessary wars and have never been held accountable. You want to venerate the troops? Metaphorically light up the motherfuckers who sent them into needless battle. String them from metaphorical trees, metaphorically tar and feather them, literally strip them of power and wealth. This is our country, and politicians need to be reminded of that occasionally.

I truly cannot believe this is my country now, though. Idiot mouthbreathers running public opinion, controlling the narrative, always talking, talking, talking. Posting stupid fucking memes that are flat fucking wrong. Putting out sound bites and tweets that people get as their news. People comparing looting to the goddamn tea party and some dumb fucking kid to a hero- don't you see that there isn't change around the corner? We aren't going to throw off the shackles- we're preparing them for ourselves (we have a red pair and a blue pair and -surprise- it's the same pair) and it's literally exactly what our enemies want. They want the balance of power to tip, and they want it to happen without a war.

We already lost this election, now we have four years to find someone who might point us in the right direction.

[zombiewolf513]

I cant imagine being so much of an idiot as to conflate reasons one joins the service with the reasons theyre sent to war on your behalf. Absolute fucking idiot. Youre shill posting to bury the conversations at this point. But im glad youre willing to admit that your narrative is all about control, and not the truth

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Yes.

Constitution of the US Section 8:
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;"

Note the verbiage: "provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States." I'm not really seeing how deposing dictators and increasing opium production in Afghanistan is contributing to our defense. I'm not really seeing how adding trillions to the national debt is contributing to our general welfare.

The armed forces are necessary and the act of joining for the nation's defense is laudable. The conflicts soldiers/sailors/airmen have fought in since WW2 have not been. Tens of thousands of young men and women have been killed not because the United States was defending itself from a clear threat but rather because the Congress has engaged in saber-rattling, "pre-emptive strikes," and general geopolitical meddling. A privileged ruling class of politicians sent an overwhelmingly poor and middle-class group of draftees and volunteers to fight unpopular and unnecessary wars and have never been held accountable. You want to venerate the troops? Metaphorically light up the motherfuckers who sent them into needless battle. String them from metaphorical trees, metaphorically tar and feather them, literally strip them of power and wealth. This is our country, and politicians need to be reminded of that occasionally.

I truly cannot believe this is my country now, though. Idiot mouthbreathers running public opinion, controlling the narrative, always talking, talking, talking. Posting stupid fucking memes that are flat fucking wrong. Putting out sound bites and tweets that people get as their news. People comparing looting to the goddamn tea party and some dumb fucking kid to a hero- don't you see that there isn't change around the corner? We aren't going to throw off the shackles- we're preparing them for ourselves (we have a red pair and a blue pair and -surprise- it's the same pair) and it's literally exactly what our enemies want. They want the balance of power to tip, and they want it to happen without a war.

We already lost this election, now we have four years to find someone who might point us in the right direction.

Wtf..... you didnt bother to answer my question, just copy and pasted WORDS!

America was founded on taking in and protecting the weak, tired and poor.

By ur reasoning and not protecting anyone or anything but ourself is 100% against the american way and some would say against your very own DEMOCRATIC AGENDA.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

Wtf..... you didnt bother to answer my question, just copy and pasted WORDS!

America was founded on taking in and protecting the weak, tired and poor.

By ur reasoning and not protecting anyone or anything but ourself is 100% against the american way and some would say against your very own DEMOCRATIC AGENDA.

What do you want? Oligarchy? Anarchy? Are you a *gasp* socialist? Oh wait, different "democratic."

You're calling a guy who wants to tear down the establishment and enact a better one in its place a Democrat? Because I'm pretty sure that's what Trump ran on, and he's a Republican. I have solid cred throughout more than a decade on this forum that I would make a pretty shit Democrat*. *I am a registered Democrat because we have closed and modified-closed primaries and I needed to Feel the Bern!

Also, those words I copied and pasted were from the Founders. Don't you believe in the Constitution? It's okay to say no, because it's pretty obvious neither party gives a good goddamn about it either.

The tired, the weak, the poor? How tired were Jefferson's slaves? How weak was Roosevelt's reasoning for the Spanish-American War? How many households below poverty level before you start realizing we have a problem with the poor in this country? You know who have a shit record defending the tired, the weak, and the poor? I'll give you a hint: they just had a convention. I'll give you another hint: they also just had a convention.

Our country can't fix itself and you think we should prop up the world? Isn't that like building a safety net for the world while we disdain a safety net for Americans? "Hello neighbor, here's my kids' food. I'm sure they'll be fine." No wonder we have so many kids (and adults and presidents) with learning disabilities.

I guess in closing,

[S14rebuild]

Still just blah, blah blah.... we get it..u hate america but...

Again dancing around the orignal statement.

You want every american to mind their own, and defend their own..... doesnt sound like a great america too me.

Sounds like your just full of shit and upset kyle popped off a few 556 rounds into ur friends. What he did was defend a law abiding citizens property and then defended himself from YOUR blm rioters and looters. How dare you sit here and call him out. You sir are a deranged man. Blind to how great some Americans are.

[S14rebuild]

https://www.google.com/search?q=trum...12ArkgdGEFTq4M


Please.....defend the SAVAGES!!

[Future240]

Originally Posted by zombiewolf513

Hes done more work taking criminals and

off the streets for good than many cops do their whole career. Now he can focus his time on taking us to space.

Uhhhhhhhhh

https://www.courthousenews.com/prose...der-trump/amp/

[SupaDoopa]

That’s not his doing. Local judiciary circuits and a jury of peers are responsible for that. That’s like saying there is a 52% drop in the sales of floss so Trump has to be responsible.

[shaggyjake]

People were afraid of World War 3 in 2020 but instead we're getting Civil War 2.

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by SupaDoopa

That?s not his doing. Local judiciary circuits and a jury of peers are responsible for that. That?s like saying there is a 52% drop in the sales of floss so Trump has to be responsible.

Like Biden said..this is TRUMPS america.


Anything that happens durning his term is 100% his fault!

[zombiewolf513]

Originally Posted by Future240

Uhhhhhhhhh

https://www.courthousenews.com/prose...der-trump/amp/

Kenosha Kyle, not trump. C'mon man

[KA24DESOneThree]

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

Still just blah, blah blah.... we get it..u hate america but...

Again dancing around the orignal statement.

You want every american to mind their own, and defend their own..... doesnt sound like a great america too me.

Sounds like your just full of shit and upset kyle popped off a few 556 rounds into ur friends. What he did was defend a law abiding citizens property and then defended himself from YOUR blm rioters and looters. How dare you sit here and call him out. You sir are a deranged man. Blind to how great some Americans are.

You ascribe more weight to the statements of one team than the other, regardless of truth or science. I'm not on a team, I only want what's best for the country- because it's ultimately best for me as a citizen, business owner, and car enthusiast.

You're willing to side with the kid despite evidence to the contrary but you're also willing to call the people he shot "looters" despite no evidence. Both are innocent until proven guilty, although both are guilty of being stupid. The only difference is that one of them was stupid enough to kill.

You're binary- black/white, 0/1. It took me a long, long time to realize that life isn't black/white- there are shades of gray. Fuck dude, there are colors in the spectrum. Look at many things holistically and the world becomes a very interesting place- rabbit holes everywhere.

We have insurance for a reason. If insurance doesn't pay out quickly, is that the rioters'/looters' fault or the insurance company's fault? Very rarely is property damage (or theft) worth killing over.

Question: Would you support the killing of people who riot and destroy property after an NHL or NBA championship?

PS- love the Trump guillotine protest. At least they're headed in the right direction...

[zombiewolf513]

Get rekt commie

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

You ascribe more weight to the statements of one team than the other, regardless of truth or science. I'm not on a team, I only want what's best for the country- because it's ultimately best for me as a citizen, business owner, and car enthusiast.

You're willing to side with the kid despite evidence to the contrary but you're also willing to call the people he shot "looters" despite no evidence. Both are innocent until proven guilty, although both are guilty of being stupid. The only difference is that one of them was stupid enough to kill.

You're binary- black/white, 0/1. It took me a long, long time to realize that life isn't black/white- there are shades of gray. Fuck dude, there are colors in the spectrum. Look at many things holistically and the world becomes a very interesting place- rabbit holes everywhere.

We have insurance for a reason. If insurance doesn't pay out quickly, is that the rioters'/looters' fault or the insurance company's fault? Very rarely is property damage (or theft) worth killing over.

Question: Would you support the killing of people who riot and destroy property after an NHL or NBA championship?

PS- love the Trump guillotine protest. At least they're headed in the right direction...

Your a peice of shit...there i said it!

U condone violence against the american people and its president


And yes...i agree into protecting whats mine from any looters, rioters etc.. from any movement be it racial, political or sports.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

Your a peice of shit...there i said it!

U condone violence against the american people and its president


And yes...i agree into protecting whats mine from any looters, rioters etc.. from any movement be it racial, political of sports.

100%

By his logic the Commie fucks that got killed had life insurance. It's all good, if the families don't get paid out quick enough it's the capitalist insurance companies fault.

There are at least 15 various videos clearly showing the mob attacking the kid.

When you are "unarmed" and attack someone with a gun, you are going to get shot. What you expect them to let you disarm them and either use their own gun on them or let you beat them to death?

The third douche was even armed with a Glock despite being a convicted felon. All three where pieces of shit.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Very rarely is property damage (or theft) worth killing over.

So if property damage isn't worth killing over...

Surely you agree then it must not be worth dying for....

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Question: Would you support the killing of people who riot and destroy property after an NHL or NBA championship?

What do you think?

[Corbic]

[LEG1T]

Memes are soo silly...

Everyone can cherry pic a picture for a subject doesn't automatically justify and validate your point corbic

I can create that same meme to support my views, means literally nothing....



I can't remember the last time a black murderer was treated to Burger king after murdering people in a church, can you? Usually they end up dead without the trial or the jury. Am I lying?

There is a major bias in the criminal justice/policing system again Blacks and minorities that simply don't exists for whites.

Unfair policing & sentencing of people of color in this country is a serious problem and it needs to be addressed.

[zombiewolf513]

Maybe if you burn down the city and kill kids trying to stop you, youll get something accomplished amirite?

Your views do mean nothing, because theyre based in delusion. Dont cry when reality knocks you on your asses.

You guys are truly lucky the one armed scumbag didnt kill kyle